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adamantined January 19 2011, 03:18:28 UTC
I don't really get poetry. I mean, I've tried but it always just kind of feels like you're trying to find the meaning behind words that someone just threw together to make something sound pretty.

But... have you ever read The Buried Life by Matthew Arnold?

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text } quiesquietis January 19 2011, 03:21:42 UTC
That's always the concern.

"Alas! is even love too weak
To unlock the heart, and let it speak?
Are even lovers powerless to reveal
To one another what indeed they feel?"

A few times, yes.

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text } adamantined January 19 2011, 03:22:44 UTC
It was especially a concern when I was being graded on it.

I like the end.

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text } quiesquietis January 19 2011, 03:26:23 UTC
Oh, of course.

This will sound trite, I worry, but can you say what it is that you like about it?

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text } adamantined January 19 2011, 03:28:20 UTC
I don't think it sounds trite, but it is very teacher of you.

And I don't know how to explain it really. It's just like... he's been living and running for so long and then finally there's a break in it. And he can see the beginning, and he can see the end. It's a weirdly optimistic perspective.

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text } quiesquietis January 19 2011, 03:40:06 UTC
Ah, yes. My usual affliction.

So there's meaning to that poem to you. I agree, the end does have that tone. And it's very much concerned with love.

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text } adamantined January 19 2011, 03:42:51 UTC
Isn't there supposed to be meaning in every poem? Otherwise it's just a bunch of words someone threw together.

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text } quiesquietis January 19 2011, 04:30:21 UTC
I thought that's what you meant by reading meaning into words thrown together to sound pretty?

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text } adamantined January 19 2011, 06:49:34 UTC
I know, I was just... trying to make a joke.

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text } quiesquietis January 19 2011, 06:58:59 UTC
It's a joke with an excellent point, though. I don't think anyone can deny some poetry is...frankly rather bad and designed only to seem insightful, rather than actually being that way. For example, anything I wrote in the throes of adolescence. I worry it's discouraging, although the fact that you sought out and remember Matthew Arnold anyway seems to belie that concern.

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text } adamantined January 19 2011, 07:01:08 UTC
To be fair, it was just something that I remember reading at one point. Most of the things that I've tried to understand or find some kind of meaning in do just sound like random words. Unless we're talking about Shel Silverstein, because everyone knows there's meaning in The Giving Tree.

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text } quiesquietis January 19 2011, 07:54:57 UTC
That book.

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text } adamantined January 19 2011, 08:06:33 UTC
Is still perfect years later.

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text } quiesquietis January 19 2011, 08:12:17 UTC
It made me cry the first time I read it. And the second.

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text } adamantined January 19 2011, 08:14:32 UTC
Fortunately my mom got it for me, and I read it in the comfort of my own home. Otherwise my street cred would have gone down a lot.

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text } quiesquietis January 19 2011, 08:18:42 UTC
I hope you didn't take relationship advice from it. I did. A very bad idea.

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