Otherselves, Otherworlds, Otherwhens

[quantumshaman]

Question to Orlando:  Tonight I experienced perceiving many selves...very much as if many lifetimes were flashing before me. I did not feel order really...and I saw each more than once or twice. I really couldn't keep up and count. What was happening? Was my AP in a certain position enabling me to be in this experience or was my AP fluid so that I

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reincarnation

[anonymous]

Your view on reincarnation initially discombobulated me. I was a linear kind of girl before I came upon your far-out views. Though, I never much liked the idea of coming back to the hell hole of planet earth your idea of annihilation shook me up and scattered me asunder. I slammed your book Nagual Woman down and vowed I never wanted to pick it up again. Scared me so much! Doggone lonely too. However, I could not comfortably accept the notion of a subtle realm where I'd sit around all day- or bob around. Save myself? Reach escape velocity so I can forever maintain my individuality? Ha! That's a laugh. So what to do? Come back to earth and try try again. But that's only good if you can remember what your try try again is all about. Let's say I was once Mary Lincoln. I feel I have a lot in common with this woman and have read everything I can about her. I feel love for her and understand her like no one else.I have taken the tour of the Lincoln house in Springfield countless times. And have also tagged a computer page of a video tour of the house so I can watch it frequently for it gives me a strange comfort. I've even felt a weird grief connected to the place. I've even wanted to be married to Abraham Lincoln. I have grieved like a wife for his death.I have awakened in my present bedroom seeing the ceiling of the Springfield house as if I was awakening to a room in that house-as I used to do oh so long ago. Now that was a shocker. So one day I decided I must have been Mary Lincoln. Is that crazy or is that crazy? The only thing that bothered me was that I had no memory that made her personal to me-except for the emotion characterizing her life. If I had once been Mary Lincoln I had her subconscious not her conscious mind.
So then I read your quantum view. And I must say it blew my feeble brain.
And it brought home this whole idiotic concept of reincarnation to me once and for all. That if we can't remember with the full force of the conscious mind then we really are dead. And the Mary Lincoln I once was is bone cold in the tomb of Springfield. The only thing left of her is my shifting dreamy angst bittersweet of a long forgotten love-limning the difference between then and now. Oh where are you Mary Lincoln. Alas, dear sad woman you are not here.
Then you said something that really shook my timbers.
You imply that the past is Now. And I've heard psychics speak of the living past too. That it is alive now. Whew! Why not? I've come thus far. So, I ask you this. Are the Lincolns alive now?

Re: reincarnation

[quantumshaman]

Thanks for your candid comments. Actually, I'm glad you threw the book across the room instead of throwing it AT me. *LOL*

But seriously, I know exactly what you mean about being discombobulated by this kind of ideas. I had a similar reaction when reading the books of Carlos Castsaneda many years ago. In my case, they seemed to validate my crazy ideas, but at the same time they were scary as hell in the sense that they didn't waste time painting pretty fairy tales about 'reincarnation' and 'cosmic oneness' and all that other new age fluff that some cling to because it offers comfort with regard to the subjects which are perhaps not meant to be comforted: death, obliteration, salvation.

Do I think the Lincolns are alive today? Of course. Quantumly speaking, time is not linear, but seems to be a continuum in which everything is happening simultaneously. As linear beings, it isn't easy to wrap our minds around that, but if we can get past our linear thinking, we can begin to *see* that what we think of as "past lives" are really machinations of our doubles within that infinite Now. So, in that manner of thinking, your double (higher self, if you prefer) could have lived an entire lifetime as Mary Lincoln in order to provide you with some big of knowledge/information/experience that would be otherwise unavailable to you. So in that regard, I would say to focus on what you DO remember, or even what you think you remember. For example, when you woke up in your own bed, but found yourself staring at the ceiling of the house in Springfield... what did you learn from that? What did the experience reveal to you? Even if it was only to prove to you that the world is nothing like you have been taught to believe... that's an invaluable lesson, since it came from your own direct, personal experience, rather than just something you read in a book.

It's said that for every action we take, for every thought we think, we open up an infinite number of quantum "otherworlds" - i.e., other possible realities. In many ways, I think our doubles give us the opportunity to explore some of those otherworlds in the guise of what we mistakenly think of as "past lives". The double is infinite and eternal. Not so with our humanform. The key is developing the tool of gnosis (silent knowing) as a direct channel between the human self and the immortal double. Through gnosis, we fan explore a lot more of the double's experiences and come to understand a lot more about our "past lives".

Thanks again for your comments.

Many blessings,
Della

Re: reincarnation

[anonymous]

Well, I didn't actually throw the book. I laid it down and pondered uneasily.
Now I read your book without trepidation. For once I mulled things over it made so much sense. I have read all of the Casteneda books and initially had trouble with the abstractions. Believe it or not I really had no idea what the tensegrity execises were about. I did them like a crazy person. For I was one of those Carlos lovers that lived for his every word. No doubt about it I loved and still love Carlos Casteneda. Thank goodness I was so trusting. For one day because of those exercises and my childlike trust I had the most extraordinary experience. I doubt I would have had it had I been too rational about the world of Carlos-if you know what I mean.
Anyway-you are a quick study. So smart and have a mysterious wonderful energy. Where did you come from dear Della? I am glad that you are alive on this planet at the same time I am alive.

Re: reincarnation

[quantumshaman]

Heh - my mother used to say she found me in a cabbage patch. I think that's as good an explanation as any as to where I came from. :)

I suspect as all come from the nagual in one way or another, and spend the rest of our lives trying to get back home.