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asa_dachi April 2 2008, 20:44:07 UTC
Not to take one side or another, but for the record the article does state that he attacked an officer and took his collapsible metal baton. So he did have 'a weapon', one that could be hypothetically deadly in certain circumstances. Not arguing whether these circumstances were or were not right, wrong, deadly, not deadly.

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quantum_kitty April 2 2008, 21:18:20 UTC
Yes, he had a stick...and two others had sticks...and they had a lot more in numbers...

To shoot someone dead to avoid a potential broken bone or two is not a satisfactory solution.

A baton does not necessitate the use of deadly force.

BTW, happy early birthday.

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delanthear April 2 2008, 21:23:47 UTC
I'm with you. People who act like this shouldn't be acting for societies safety.

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asa_dachi April 3 2008, 02:43:42 UTC
The baton could have done more than break a bone or two, especially in the hands of a potential PCP-head who is super-crazed. A crack over the head could kill.

But, I agree that 3 cops should have been able to patiently keep the guy from hurting anyone else and eventually get him under control.

My guess is these cops are lame locals who are not used to dealing with these sorts of things. If these guys were really fascists, there would have been another cop shooting in the past 5 years. But I could be wrong.

Anyway, the cops deserve whatever punishment comes their way. The guy didn't deserve to die. But, most importantly, the whole thing needs to be digested and understood.

And thank you for the birthday wishes! We'll see how it goes. Right now I have some conference calls and not a lot else scheduled. Oh, and Tae Kwon Do class. Hopefully I will still be employed next week... not that I love my job, but I need the income and I'm worried that this Friday will be the last day.

-asa

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quantum_kitty April 3 2008, 04:00:46 UTC
Oh no...I hate that kind of worry.

I'll keep you in my thoughts - here's hoping you are still employed come your birthday. **crosses fingers**

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hey stranger annun April 8 2008, 00:54:39 UTC
It's good to hear from you. I've been trying to get ahold of you for the last few months. Did your phone number change again?

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Re: hey stranger quantum_kitty April 8 2008, 02:30:29 UTC
No my number has been the same for a few years...though I've been having issues with not actually /getting/ phone calls.

I've been considering changing services due to missed calls and voice mails.

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Re: hey stranger annun April 8 2008, 16:46:11 UTC
I'll give it another try later today when I'm not surrounded by students more or less trying to study. In the mean time, my email is Veronica.Wiley@du.edu
It would be good to catch up with you.

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