This also goes back to a comment from a week or two ago, where I was talking about trauma and how yes, sometimes characters respond to trauma in really shitty ways.
Another thing I'm really sick of in post TWS fandom is the idea that Bucky has suffered enough and is a good person and therefore will have a very standard, textbook, neurotypical recovery.
And like, the unfortunate reality is that good people do shitty things in response to trauma all the time. I think I've talked before about my frustration with the idea that good people respond to trauma in one way and bad people another, and I just realized why.
I really, really hate seeing fundamental goodness equated with health. The "this character is a Good Person and they will therefore have emotionally healthy reactions to things" bugs me a lot, because that's something a lot of people struggle with, for whatever reason. They start to think "I didn't react in the GOOD way, that GOOD people are supposed to react whens something like this happens, so there must be something WRONG with me". Obviously every character is responsible for picking up their own garbage, but I feel like acknowledging where that garbage comes from is the best chance to find a way forward? And acting like the best just...don't have any trash doesn't seem like a good solution to me.
It's why I REALLY want to see Bucky go dark during his recovery process while he's trying to figure out who he is. It's not that I want to see him dragged through the mud or anything, but I'm really sick of fandom's impression of what the experiences he's had do to a person, even a "good" one. The "side of the angels" isn't going to be so clear cut to him anymore, imo, and like, for me, that's the story that would interest me the most.
i'm going to talk about shield, which, ughredbrunjaJune 4 2015, 07:54:23 UTC
This also goes back to a comment from a week or two ago, where I was talking about trauma and how yes, sometimes characters respond to trauma in really shitty ways.
And like, the unfortunate reality is that good people do shitty things in response to trauma all the time. I think I've talked before about my frustration with the idea that good people respond to trauma in one way and bad people another, and I just realized why.
For a period, there, one thing I REALLY loved about Grant Ward's storyline was that he was an abuse survivor who was not evil, but also clearly deeply, deeply fucked up by his history of abuse.
Another thing I'm really sick of in post TWS fandom is the idea that Bucky has suffered enough and is a good person and therefore will have a very standard, textbook, neurotypical recovery.
How do you feel about what you just said related to the post-WS murder roadtrip trope? Because that is something that's come up in a lot of fics, I think (that I am not reading, because they're all Steve/Bucky).
This also goes back to a comment from a week or two ago, where I was talking about trauma and how yes, sometimes characters respond to trauma in really shitty ways.
Another thing I'm really sick of in post TWS fandom is the idea that Bucky has suffered enough and is a good person and therefore will have a very standard, textbook, neurotypical recovery.
And like, the unfortunate reality is that good people do shitty things in response to trauma all the time. I think I've talked before about my frustration with the idea that good people respond to trauma in one way and bad people another, and I just realized why.
I really, really hate seeing fundamental goodness equated with health. The "this character is a Good Person and they will therefore have emotionally healthy reactions to things" bugs me a lot, because that's something a lot of people struggle with, for whatever reason. They start to think "I didn't react in the GOOD way, that GOOD people are supposed to react whens something like this happens, so there must be something WRONG with me". Obviously every character is responsible for picking up their own garbage, but I feel like acknowledging where that garbage comes from is the best chance to find a way forward? And acting like the best just...don't have any trash doesn't seem like a good solution to me.
It's why I REALLY want to see Bucky go dark during his recovery process while he's trying to figure out who he is. It's not that I want to see him dragged through the mud or anything, but I'm really sick of fandom's impression of what the experiences he's had do to a person, even a "good" one. The "side of the angels" isn't going to be so clear cut to him anymore, imo, and like, for me, that's the story that would interest me the most.
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And like, the unfortunate reality is that good people do shitty things in response to trauma all the time. I think I've talked before about my frustration with the idea that good people respond to trauma in one way and bad people another, and I just realized why.
For a period, there, one thing I REALLY loved about Grant Ward's storyline was that he was an abuse survivor who was not evil, but also clearly deeply, deeply fucked up by his history of abuse.
Another thing I'm really sick of in post TWS fandom is the idea that Bucky has suffered enough and is a good person and therefore will have a very standard, textbook, neurotypical recovery.
How do you feel about what you just said related to the post-WS murder roadtrip trope? Because that is something that's come up in a lot of fics, I think (that I am not reading, because they're all Steve/Bucky).
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