the tyranny of the masses

[qualapec]

I saw an article talking about Whedon's choice to step away from Avengers after AoU and I'm super disappointed?

Like, the second Thanos showed up in the Avengers mid-credits scene, I wanted the Infinity Gauntlet arc for the MCU so badly, because, holy shit, Infinity Gauntlet as done by Joss Whedon. I'm so there fore that. Now he's not doing and it

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[qualapec]

Do you think there is any chance they WON'T do the Infinity Gauntlet arc?

No, but also yes. I don't think there's a chance they won't do something with the Infinity Gauntlet because they've already invested so much in setting it up. Multiple infinity stones spread across multiple movies, building Thanos up as the big bad, introducing Nebula (who has a role that is almost as important as Thanos' I would argue). HOWEVER, I think it will be an interpretation of that story that is appropriate for the world as the MCU has established it, instead of the early 90s comics trippy shitshow the book is. So I think we're philosophically getting it for sure, but there are going to be a lot of fundamental changes that will slot it into the MCU more effectively than it sounds like it would when first looking it over. Like how we're getting Civil War, but we're getting a DIFFERENT Civil War, if that makes sense?

BUT it's basically a giant team kill with a lot of heroic self-sacrifices and resurrections and the potential for ladies to do some really cool stuff (like how dude Captain Marvel in the comics was the one to defeat Thanos in the end...but for the movies, Carol will be Captain Marvel at that point, and like I said, Nebula having an amazing moment) and those are the aspects of it that I would have wanted to see Whedon take on.

My other thing about Whedon is that he writes and directs all of his characters like main characters, with their own legitimate identities in relativity to the plot, which I think would have been really good for an Infinity Gauntlet story.

Oh, god, please do this. Because I know you know I have my problems with the post-WS fandom and the ways in which FANDOM FAILED ME but I am super-interested in what your big problems with the fandom are.

Yeah, I need to actually sift through my feelings. BC a lot of my negative feelings about the Russos directing Infinity War admittedly might have less to do with them as storytellers and more to do with how fandom took it and made it into something it wasn't.

(And it would be interesting to compare notes because while I suspect there's some crossover, I think we're bothered by different things. My big issues have more to do with the way fandom treats it like a morality tale + has decided Steve Rogers is a Christ metaphor sent to deliver the universe from its sins and define all other narratives in relation to him, and the mis-re-appropriation (???) of bisexuality, the combination of which has resulted in me generally liking Steve as a nuclear entity, but having a Pavlovian hate response whenever I see him pop up on my tumblr dash.)

[redbrunja]

Like how we're getting Civil War, but we're getting a DIFFERENT Civil War, if that makes sense?

That totally makes sense. As do comments that the villain of that arc is going to be the NSA - there is no way they'd commit to having Tony be as in-the-wrong as the actual comics do.