Yet another fandom post -- Please skip if you're not a fan of giant robots.

[quadruplify]

So I finished watching the second Evangelion movie not too long ago.

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[shiome]

...an anti-ship essay? I'm not sure I like the concept. :/ I've seen plenty of ship-manifestos, but the opposite seems pretty uncalled for and with lots of potential for drama-stirring, as a general concept. Soapboxes, uh? Dangerous things, those.

God knows this fandom doesn't need any chance for wank. I'm going to reply to it later though~ (I only agree with a few points, and I really, really despise the 'masochistic submissive slut' characterization which seems to be the basis for the author's view of Starscream, but I feel like I should definitely point out a few things.)
Most of her 'essay' is valid, but I feel a little miffed that someone would take time to specifically single out a pairing they dislike and write at length about it. Free to do so, but uh. I'm just a bit weirded out by the 'reverse' dedication.

ICON TWINS!

[quadruplify]

To be honest, I sort of encouraged her to write it (among a couple of others), so if any wank does break out, you're more than welcome to put part of the blame on me. :3

I really hope no wank comes out of this, though. I thought it was well-reasoned and level-headed, and she herself stated that it was her opinions and that she wasn't trying to force them down anyone else's throats or make people stop writing the pairing. They're just opinions I happen to agree with whole-heartedly. XD And to be fair, it's the only pairing in the fandom that really miffs her, as she told me, so I don't see why it's so bad to vent about it.

If people do get offended by it, it's their problem, not hers. IMHO, I don't see this as something worth getting offended over; it's not like institutionalized racism or anything like that. :/

I'd be really interested to hear your take on it, though, especially how you interpret the character of Starscream. Discussion is good, no? ^_^;

Re: ICON TWINS!

[shiome]

Oh, it's just this - maybe it's simple my take on peaceful-coexistence on the internets, but I'd personally never post something of the like in a public place. There are plenty of pairings I dislike (some I just downright hate to the point I backspace when I see them, M/SS being the most prominent), but while I could write at lenght about my reasons and opinions on why said pairings would not work... I somehow feel like it'd be unnecessarily confrontational to post said reasons where everyone can read them. It's my opinion only, I don't plan to convert anyone, and I'm not looking for people to nod their head and agree- so I don't think I should share them.

Then again, that's just my own behaviour of choice. :) No harm done, I'll just reply later.

Re: ICON TWINS!

[quadruplify]

I think she posted it publicly because the essay also made some great points about how D/s relationships and pregnancy are portrayed in fic which I think would be beneficial for lots of people to see. I can see the argument behind only making those parts public, but eh, I'm not too concerned.

I just find it funny that some people who commented (or are about to comment) on the essay respectfully, even perhaps agreeing at points, are now probably mocking her behind her back in a public space. I'm not a huge fan of that, but then again, that just must be my take on peaceful coexistence online, isn't it?

Re: ICON TWINS!

[neonstilettos]

I just find it funny that some people who commented (or are about to comment) on the essay respectfully, even perhaps agreeing at points, are now probably mocking her behind her back in a public space.

Oh, I have no doubt of that. It wouldn't be the first time, either. But *shrug* whatever. If that's how people want to waste their time, fine. I have better things to do, like writing more smut for my OTP ;)

[neonstilettos]

Err, I hadn't originally intended to post it publicly, but was urged to do so by mecteol and several others, so I did. I have zero interest in starting some sort of weird ship war, and certainly don't expect everyone to agree with me. Several people openly disagreed with me in the comments and presented their own, different opinions, and that's fine. I don't really see what's wrong with respectfully expressing opinions in communities, where the whole point is discussion. And I do feel that I presented my opinion in a respectful way.

I'm writing a ship manifesto also, actually, but it'll probably end up being like twice as long and have people eye-rolling by the second paragraph XD

[shiome]

Please don't misunderstand; I have nothing against the content of the post, being your legitimate opinion, as much as the circumstances in which it was presented; like I said, I hardly have a problem with ship manifestos and the like, I just tend to keep my opinions for myself when they're negative. The only thing that took me by surprise was seeing a relatively very obscure pairing singled out for examination and critique, when plenty of others are subject to the same flaws and get much more exposure; it would have somewhat irked me no matter which pairing, I promise (though I honestly admit, being a fervent OP/SS shipper, it was bound to catch my attention right away.)

Just let me go back to the reply I was going to post on said entry- so I can actually discuss the content as well without reiterating my problem with the public/etc issue needlessly. :)
/backspacing that part right now