Things I found out today

[qthewetsprocket]

Matthew Graham and Ashley Pharoah seem to have deleted their Twitter account (MonasticProds). This makes me sad. Very likely it's because of the whole QuattroGate fiasco, and I just hope they didn't shut it down because of the fans getting as nasty as I suspect they were

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[qthewetsprocket]

I'm of two minds about the whole Quattrow thing...on the one hand, I think the main thing that's clear to everyone is that Graham should have spoken to Glenister privately about it instead of spitting black bile at him via a medium he couldn't answer back on. On the other hand, though, you don't just suddenly blow up like that at someone who's previously been a friend without some kind of prior provocation. So I have to wonder what went on behind the scenes that led up to this. Clearly there was something already amiss in their relationship, or else Graham probably would have just called him up and gone, 'uh, mate? Not cool."

Also, Glenister has a bit of a history of putting his foot in his mouth in interviews: witness his infamous "dialect coach? I don't need no steenkin' dialect coach!") remarks in the press for Demons, before proceeding to blithely massacre his "generic American" accent to smithereens in that show. Also, actors tend to get automatic audience credit for making up the whole movie/tv show all by themselves anyway...ie, everyone goes to see a "Tom Cruise" movie or a "John SImm" tv show. So for an actor to even jokingly try to claim credit for a writer's hard work? They're treading on very dangerous ground there. ( His response to Graham's Twitter attack did show a lot of restraint, though, which is about the only admirable thing to come out of the whole fiasco.)

And on yet a third hand, as you mentioned, I think the RT interviewer shares a huge portion of the blame for this, if not all of it. I have to wonder if omitting the writers' names was the only artistic license they took with Glenister's words.

As for the Twitter account...it reminds me of the backlash when Ianto was killed off in Torchwood. I lost a lot of respect for James Moran over that...if you missed it, what basically happened was that Moran had been keeping a blog and interacting with the fans quite happily so long as they were praising his work and stroking his ego. But when Ianto was killed off (in a very sloppy, pointless, ham-handed way, it must be said) and the fans suddenly turned on him, he stormed off in a flounce, deleted his blog, and basically took his ball and went home.

(To be fair, Moran claimed that he was getting a lot of personal abuse and even threats from angry fans, which - having seen the ugly side of fandom more than once - I'm very willing to believe. I just hope that Graham didn't delete his Twitter account for similar reasons; ie, the fans forgetting their manners and making personal attacks and generally giving the rest of us a bad name.)

I'm quite looking forward to the TG special...ah boys, how I have missed you. :)

[dorsetgirl]

Who's James Moran? Was he the director, or the writer? Because Ianto dying, whatever one thinks of it as an idea, was entirely down to Russell. Perhaps this Moran bloke had had enough of taking the shit for something Russell had told him to put in. And, yes, Who fandom can be terrifying, I just watch and love the show and keep out of all that stuff.

[qthewetsprocket]

Because Ianto dying, whatever one thinks of it as an idea, was entirely down to Russell. Perhaps this Moran bloke had had enough of taking the shit for something Russell had told him to put in.

Yep. Pretty much my take on it, too. I think Moran ended up being the target of (some of) the fans' wrath simply because he was a writer on Children of Earth, and RTD didn't have a blog where they could vent their spleen. Personally I wonder at how Moffat maintains his Twitter account at all, with all the abuse he must get.