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dsummzzz March 18 2010, 21:52:57 UTC
I'm all for letting anyone who wants to run around nekkid.
Well, some people shouldn't be nekkid but that's a fashion statement rather than a moral statement.

From there, Dubai is only after the money. They have to let westerners do their thing in order o make money.
If they could enforce their laws and make money, you can bet the would.

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qatar March 18 2010, 22:22:47 UTC
Certainly Dubai has an economic interest in attracting Westerners. The US has traditionally had economic interests in attracting immigrants, too, though; I don't know that you can argue that we became a pro-immigrant country because we just decided it was the Right Thing to Do.

Also, your argument is less true for Qatar. They really don't need to impress Westerners; they can be the richest people in the world just by selling us their natural gas. So they do have a choice about how much to protect their traditional culture, and they STILL choose to let me wear a bikini.

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dsummzzz March 18 2010, 22:36:43 UTC
Well, yes. But my thought is that they need to show everyone how progressive they can be in order to make that sale.
I could be totally wrong, but that's my gut.

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How so? shmuelisms March 18 2010, 23:04:53 UTC
How do you figure that? Both Saudi Arabia and Iran are considerably less progressive than either Dubai or Qatar, and they STILL have the world in their palm. Oil - you can't really get it anywhere else, so they don't really care about "being nice".

qatar, I think your point is very valid one. Another more private example is that a Muslim with multiple wives, can't really immigrate to the USA, at least not and keep their legally created family together. And this isn't even really an in-your-face "public" issue

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Re: How so? qatar March 19 2010, 07:41:20 UTC
Shmuel, that's another good example. In fact, practicing (or even HAVING practiced) polygamy is considered "moral turpitude" for immigration purposes and bars you from citizenship.

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qatar March 19 2010, 07:51:35 UTC
In addition to what Shmuel said, it's worth noting that almost all Qatar's LNG exports are to Asia. China's been increasing its LNG consumption a lot lately... do you think it cares how progressive Qatar is? :-)

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