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Apr 24, 2008 03:40

First and foremost, tyroantiheroine, this at least two thirds yours. You know where the other third has to fall, luv. ♥

TITLE: Untitled
PAIRING: Jack & Elizabeth
RATING: PG
SUMMARY: Jack imparts wisdom, while getting Elizabeth inebriated. C'mon people, you know how they do.
AN:Trying to get back into the swing of writing after a long fight with writer's block ( Read more... )

fic, sparrabeth

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tiamary April 24 2008, 16:27:11 UTC
I enjoyed this a lot and look forward to rereading! Jack's difficulty in expressing himself due to being distracted by Elizabeth was sexier than I would have expected...the story slowly seduces.

Are you the same person who wrote "Grog: A Tale of Ribaldry" (and another J/E story) on aff.net? I see some similarities in the use of language.

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pyracies April 24 2008, 17:31:30 UTC
Thank you so much! I can't help but have some sexuality come through in my Sparrabeth writing, any accurate portrayal of their dynamic would have to at least suggest their very obvious (canon!) tension.

Alas, no, that wasn't me. But, maybe I should look it up. If you wanna see what is is me (by chance, you know, if you're bored or something ;p), my "vault" is voilesnoires. Thanks again!

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tiamary April 25 2008, 00:41:45 UTC
A little warning: when I first read "Grog" (J/E subsection of Pirates of the Caribbean subsection of the movies section of adultfanfiction.net) I thought it was brilliantly written but also thought the writer didn't like Jack and Sparrabeth, because he/she made an effort to portray Jack as a real pirate. A real pirate, mind you: complete with rotting, brown teeth, immorality, filthy body, and (ahem) ill health. However, his/her other story on adultfanfiction.net is very pro-Jack and pro-Sparrabeth so I think the "Grog" thing was a way for him/her to explore, what would Jack have been like if he were a realistic pirate? You might like it.

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pyracies April 25 2008, 00:47:49 UTC
Ehhhhh, as to their deplorable hygiene, I'm inclined to agree, but I always get a little annoyed when people equate "real" piracy with morality, or the lack thereof, as they most certainly did not lack it as a generalization. Like any group of people, some them were assholes, some of them were not.....

heh, this is the part where I promise not to rant about them being desperate proletarians who hated on some capitalism and occasionally raided slave ships. ;p

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tiamary April 26 2008, 04:59:08 UTC
Too late. You ranted! Despite your best intentions! hehe

So you'd disagree with Ted and Terry's statement in the DVD commentary that all real pirates were murderous, raping cutthroats? (The Grog writer didn't go that far, thankfully.)

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pyracies April 26 2008, 05:30:05 UTC
I think that to say "all" of any group is one thing or another is pretty silly, generalizations are never true. It would be equally naive of me to suggest that there was not an immense amount of violence involved in being a pirate, and that some of them were probably not all together nice guys (I'd venture to say most of them), but, it's just bad history to ignore the numerous accounts of pirates who were actually acting out in social revolt, even those who didn't use such noble language to describe it. The political arithmetic of piracy is paramount to understanding... the overall thing. Upstanding citizens of the world they may not have been, but over the course of less than thirty years approximately 2,500 men averaging age 28 brought five of the largest empires nearly to a grinding economic halt, those bastards, for the first time, were all running scared, and that's.... that's takin' one for the team.

Yeahhhh, that, that was a rant. ;p

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pyracies April 26 2008, 05:32:56 UTC
But, I wasn't aware that TnT said that, I would think, just given the script that they've written, that they'd know better. The whole back story bit about Jack refusing to deliver a cargo of slaves, and the omgbadguy! being none other than the E.I.T.C (read: the very first love child of corporation and state AND the biggest slave trade lobby in Parliament).... that's really, actually, very disappointing that they'd say that.

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tiamary April 27 2008, 01:04:11 UTC
Can you recommend any books? It sounds fascinating.

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pyracies April 27 2008, 06:13:48 UTC
Absolutely anything at all by Marcus Rediker, he's a history professor @ the University of Pittsburgh, and a radical piratologist. His favorite book of mine is "Villains of All Nations," which is my pirate bible, he also wrote, "Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea," and "The Many-Headed Hydra."

He is probably one of, if not the most sympathetic historian out there, when it comes to pirates (without romanticizing them, which is important). Some people proposed that he's biased, being that he's a Marxist, and piracy was largely comprised of crimes against capital(ism), but, being as how I'm an anarchist, and have the same bias, I can't help but take his side ( ... )

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