Oh, it probably is reading too much into things, but what's the fun otherwise? ;)
partly because I feel like Cas (and Death for that matter) would be able to glean the difference between trauma-induced hallucinations and a bona-fide psychic connection to Satan. And, you know, mentioned something about it.
Ah, that was something I intended to add in and forgot! If we accept this premise as true, I think Death's Wall serves as a means of blocking the connection. By the time Cas got his hand on Sam's soul to check in "Like a Virgin," the Wall was already up, and therefore no connection. As for Cas, my theory is that every angel-vessel link is different (which I plan on looking at in another meta) so he might not have realized what he was seeing.
Gotta disagree with you on this one. Only because the fact that Sam is better now doesn't negate what he's beet through this whole season. Even if he may not remember Hell, he's still going to remember suffering the after-effects. He'll still remember being sleep-deprived and locked up in a psych ward. And he'll remember remembering.
See, to me Sam was so frustrated with his amnesia in the latter half of season 6 (going so far as to scratch the Wall when he knew it could kill him) and mad at Dean for pulling the same thing on Lisa in "Let It Bleed" ("Dean, you know, you've pulled some shady crap before, but this has got to be the worst. Whitewashing their memories? Take it from somebody who knows...") that I can't see him being happy with yet another round of amnesia, indirect or not. Sam is the one always asking questions and something like that would just leave him wondering. I see him going forward now like Dean has to, memories in tact and trying to function topside again.
I also don't think Sam was being completely honest about having piece of mind. He was clearly having a harder time than he was letting on, and I think he didn't want Dean worrying about him-which was something they laid out in 7.01, back at Bobby's place when Sam first woke up. Sam's been very much aware of what Dean's been going through, and he was doing and saying everything he could to make Dean worry about him less.
Oh, I don't doubt that he wasn't doing as well as he said there. But at that point I think he was, to some degree, lying to himself. I think he thought he was handling things better than he really was. But I don't think the sentiment of the guilt being gone (or at least severely lessened) is off. The fact that Osiris passed him up at all is proof enough in my book.
I'm also not sure about the grace thing. Does Lucifer HAVE grace? I feel like the expression "falling from grace" strongly suggests that when Lucifer fell to hell, he most certainly lost his permanently. But IDK...
This is the difference between Anna and Lucifer for me. Anna fell from Grace and became human. She no longer had Grace. But Lucifer never fell in that regard; he was cast into Hell as an angel. He still needed Sam's consent as a vessel ("Of course, I'm an angel"). My guess is that he still has Grace but it's probably twisted into something darker.
partly because I feel like Cas (and Death for that matter) would be able to glean the difference between trauma-induced hallucinations and a bona-fide psychic connection to Satan. And, you know, mentioned something about it.
Ah, that was something I intended to add in and forgot! If we accept this premise as true, I think Death's Wall serves as a means of blocking the connection. By the time Cas got his hand on Sam's soul to check in "Like a Virgin," the Wall was already up, and therefore no connection. As for Cas, my theory is that every angel-vessel link is different (which I plan on looking at in another meta) so he might not have realized what he was seeing.
Gotta disagree with you on this one. Only because the fact that Sam is better now doesn't negate what he's beet through this whole season. Even if he may not remember Hell, he's still going to remember suffering the after-effects. He'll still remember being sleep-deprived and locked up in a psych ward. And he'll remember remembering.
See, to me Sam was so frustrated with his amnesia in the latter half of season 6 (going so far as to scratch the Wall when he knew it could kill him) and mad at Dean for pulling the same thing on Lisa in "Let It Bleed" ("Dean, you know, you've pulled some shady crap before, but this has got to be the worst. Whitewashing their memories? Take it from somebody who knows...") that I can't see him being happy with yet another round of amnesia, indirect or not. Sam is the one always asking questions and something like that would just leave him wondering. I see him going forward now like Dean has to, memories in tact and trying to function topside again.
I also don't think Sam was being completely honest about having piece of mind. He was clearly having a harder time than he was letting on, and I think he didn't want Dean worrying about him-which was something they laid out in 7.01, back at Bobby's place when Sam first woke up. Sam's been very much aware of what Dean's been going through, and he was doing and saying everything he could to make Dean worry about him less.
Oh, I don't doubt that he wasn't doing as well as he said there. But at that point I think he was, to some degree, lying to himself. I think he thought he was handling things better than he really was. But I don't think the sentiment of the guilt being gone (or at least severely lessened) is off. The fact that Osiris passed him up at all is proof enough in my book.
I'm also not sure about the grace thing. Does Lucifer HAVE grace? I feel like the expression "falling from grace" strongly suggests that when Lucifer fell to hell, he most certainly lost his permanently. But IDK...
This is the difference between Anna and Lucifer for me. Anna fell from Grace and became human. She no longer had Grace. But Lucifer never fell in that regard; he was cast into Hell as an angel. He still needed Sam's consent as a vessel ("Of course, I'm an angel"). My guess is that he still has Grace but it's probably twisted into something darker.
Thanks for the thought-provoking comment!
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