I was thinking of something. This whole conversation brought something to mind. And that is--what makes us who we are? How do we determine our own personalities? Not what others see us as, but how we see our selves. I've been thinking about it often. Through things like acting, writing and even role playing we show an ability to speak and behave in a variety of ways. An ability to follow thought patterns other than what we normaly would. For example, when your naturaly outgoing but can act the part of one who is shy or vice-versa. Be it in acting, writing or roleplaying we do it, don't we? So if we're capable of capturing these views and actions as we do, then why are we not this way ourselves? It's something I keep thinking about. I'm not at all like some of the charactors I write about or whom I play. We're worlds apart. But I still manage to see things through their eyes and put myself in their shoes when I write out their views.
Just something I've noticed. It brings up a lot of questions as to how we can do this with such ease. Become someone so different from ourselves as we see ourselves.
You bring up a good point, MOG-chan. Knowing Purple this point (especially that of the art of theater and its online form, role playing) will be eaten up like Wonka candy!
I guess it comes down to this:
How we see ourselves and how others see us are two different perspectives. Perspectives are unlimited, as far as we know. There are many perspectives, but only one actuality. Only one truth. Only one you. The actuality of you is the object (hence, objectivity), while the perspective of you is the subject (hence, subjectivity).
Examine the meanings of objective and subjective. ^_^ There are dictionary definitions. Science is big on stressing the difference between subjectivity and objectivity. Something I'm well known for, too, huh? The reason is that the closer we get to being objective, the closer we get to a perspective that lacks less and less subjectivity, is getting closer and closer to the truth - the actuality of you and your very existence.
Re: The IRONYpurpionDecember 25 2009, 01:18:03 UTC
I couldn't have phrased that better myself. The science of knowing is often clouded with subjective views for those of us that think irrationally and use emotion as a guide to make a statement rather than looking at the object and seeing that the ball is round which is a fact. Calling something red when it's not seen by others is only subjective. It may be true to the one seeing it, but the word "red" taken as a fact for others may be in debate for there are many shades in the spectrum.
Most rely on specifics. Being too specific creates an illusion of arrogance for some, that I have noticed.
I enjoyed every point that you made here and yes, I'm smiling.
Re: The IRONYpurpionDecember 25 2009, 01:58:07 UTC
Most times when we role play, act a part or impersonate someone, we imagine ourselves as the character and often times we think of how the character we are playing would get out of or handle unique situations that we often have trouble facing ourselves. I do it all the time but that doesn't constitute insanity. I call it creative reasoning. However when the character takes control of every part of your being and you can't function as a person without consulting the muse, or the muse tells you to solve the problem by becoming a megalomaniac, then there is a problem that should be addressed by a therapist.
We become someone else in some cases when the situations we are in are too deep for the person that is you to handle. Some of us in a social setting do it more often than we consider. We fake a smile, a laugh or perform a task that we would normally not do at home. Most times it is to gain social acceptance or to feel important for just that moment. Sometimes, it is out of nervousness that we do such things.
Unfortunately in some cases, becoming someone else for social acceptance tends to form a new identity and that identity would feel good, intelligent or simply free spirited that we lose ourselves in the moment. I have experienced this many times myself and nearly lost myself and those I cared about in the process because it felt good and I felt important to someone else. It is oftentimes an attention getting tactic that can have adverse effects. We have to keep in mind when we use our identity in settings that generate a high energy that we are who we are for a reason.
The experiences that shape us is no less spectacular than the next persons which is why we often pretend to be someone else that we create whether that person be a character we have created or a character that we see in a movie.
Just something I've noticed. It brings up a lot of questions as to how we can do this with such ease. Become someone so different from ourselves as we see ourselves.
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I guess it comes down to this:
How we see ourselves and how others see us are two different perspectives. Perspectives are unlimited, as far as we know. There are many perspectives, but only one actuality. Only one truth. Only one you. The actuality of you is the object (hence, objectivity), while the perspective of you is the subject (hence, subjectivity).
Examine the meanings of objective and subjective. ^_^ There are dictionary definitions. Science is big on stressing the difference between subjectivity and objectivity. Something I'm well known for, too, huh? The reason is that the closer we get to being objective, the closer we get to a perspective that lacks less and less subjectivity, is getting closer and closer to the truth - the actuality of you and your very existence.
Fun, huh? ^______________^
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...the closer we get to a perspective that has less and less subjectivity...
Final edit:
The reason is that the closer we get to being objective, the closer we get to the truth - the actuality of you and your very existence.
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Most rely on specifics. Being too specific creates an illusion of arrogance for some, that I have noticed.
I enjoyed every point that you made here and yes, I'm smiling.
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We become someone else in some cases when the situations we are in are too deep for the person that is you to handle. Some of us in a social setting do it more often than we consider. We fake a smile, a laugh or perform a task that we would normally not do at home. Most times it is to gain social acceptance or to feel important for just that moment. Sometimes, it is out of nervousness that we do such things.
Unfortunately in some cases, becoming someone else for social acceptance tends to form a new identity and that identity would feel good, intelligent or simply free spirited that we lose ourselves in the moment. I have experienced this many times myself and nearly lost myself and those I cared about in the process because it felt good and I felt important to someone else. It is oftentimes an attention getting tactic that can have adverse effects. We have to keep in mind when we use our identity in settings that generate a high energy that we are who we are for a reason.
The experiences that shape us is no less spectacular than the next persons which is why we often pretend to be someone else that we create whether that person be a character we have created or a character that we see in a movie.
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