Yes, I am a nerd, thank you.
Pans Labyrinth made me cry.
Yes, indeed. It did. Although, I don't really see it as a big deal, because most movies make me cry anyway. I am cinematic sensitive. Aha.
Anyway, some scenes were actually pretty sad; Although it was the ending part that made me cry. And the part where her mom dies. I don't really want to spoil it. But I will. So if you're reading this, and you haven't seen it and you dont want to know the amazing details about the movie and it's tear-jerking moments, refrain from reading on.
It burns!! Aagh.
Anyway, now that we got rid of the loosers...
I think that the movie was really metaphorical. In a way, I don't really understand it-- I mean, I understand the plot and everything, I just don't understand the subliminal message. What are they trying to tell me? Is her dad God? Like, they said he was a"King" in the beginning. And in the Bible, it says God is "the King of Lords", or something, right? But then it also said "of the underworld" or something like that in the movie. So I'm confused. Then they have the grapes. Ugh. This erked me. She eats the grapes when she's told not to. This reminded me of the Adam and Eve story, where they're not allowed to eat the apple, and they do anyway. Alot of Biblical relations in the movie.
And Peter Pan relations. The Peter Pan article in Wikipedia mentions that J. M. Barrie got the "Pan" part of Peter's name from the mischievous Greek god of the woodlands (a faun). Guillermo del Toro must have based his story on Peter Pan somehow. So many subliminal things! & Was the Pale Man Kronus? When Ofelia went to the Pale Man's place you can see some paintings of the Pale Man eating babies, just as Kronus did with his sons.
Pan told Ofelia to not eat anything there, this may symbolize when times "eats" people that stop for a minute.
And at the same time the Pale Man is Captain Vidal. Oh! And then Mercedes stabs the Captain, like, right in the heart! Why didn't he die?? Is it like, he has no heart...or...?
Did anyone else notice how Ophelias story and Mercedes story were exactly the same thing?
Ophelia needs to get the key from the frog that keeps the tree from flourishing / Mercedes gets a copy of the key to the supply room from the captain that keeps the people from flourishing.
Ophelia needs to get the blade from the pale mans slumber to be reunited with her king and queen mother / Mercedes keeps a blade tucked away in her dress which ends up saving her life so she can be reuinted with her brother.
Ophelia has to take the baby from the captain to be reunited with her family / Mercedes takes the baby from the captain to end his reign and be with her family.
The core of both of their stories follows pretty much the same thing. The only difference is that Ophelia, being a child, lived hers out in a fantasy world and Mercedes, being an adult, lived hers out in the real world.
Ofelia received orders from the Faun, who, I personally think, represented the Captain in the imaginary world (he was very demanding just like the Captain in the real world was).
Mercedes received orders from the Captain himself.
Ofelia had a choice - but refused - to give up her baby brother to the Faun, in that way (apparently) denying herself a place in the kingdom....
Mercedes also has a younger brother who rebelled against the Captain and she also had the choice to give him up to Vidal, thus securing his favor in the household (the household representing Ofelia's kingdom), but also refused to do so.
Both received greater rewards by the end of the movie (although in Ofelia's case it was only her imagination, but at least it was a happy one that she always wished - of being a princess).
then...
Okay, so somebody told the Captain at dinner that he had served with his father, and that right before he died his father smashed his pocketwatch so that his son would know exactly when his father died. Then the Captain said "that's ridiculous, my father never owned a pocketwatch" or something like that.
And throughout the movie, the Captain is looking at his own watch (which appears to be working, because it's ticking, but I thought I saw a large crack across its face).
So what's the deal with that? Was it his father's watch? Was it working? Was the significance that he was waiting to smash it himself to establish his own honor? Or did he not recognize true honor and that's why he had a working watch? I was kind of confused about that.
I've got it.
At the beginning there was a little princess who lived in the underworld, where "no lies and no pain" existed. The girl, out of curiosity, ascended to the world of the humans and "saw the light", and so became one of them.
Genesis 3: after eating from the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, "the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked".
Before seeing the light, or opening one's eyes, there was no lies nor pain in the world; not in the fantasy underworld of the movie, not in the biblical world. The desire to know more brings the little princess to the mortal world. Man became mortal, and lie and pain came, the very moment the fruit from the tree of knowledge was eaten.
Ofelia is pure and innocent, and those are the requisites to meet God or to meet the Faun.
She is asked one just thing: have Faith. Do what we tell you to do. Don't fall to the material world (which is horrible in the movie). Keep your spirit pure.
To test her faith three tasks are given.
She completes the first task overcoming fear. She has faith. She does the right thing to do and passes the test.
In the second task she makes the same mistake that Adam made, and eats from the forbidden fruit. She has comitted sin by not doing what God said. The very moment she eats the grapes, the Pale Man wakes up, meaning Evil (not being with God) has entered the world by the act of disobedience of God's law.
This action will bring to her a dramatic consequence, cause there is just one substance that is able to wash sin.
Ofelia is not pure any more because of what she has done. She has lost her innocence, but she is conscious that she has done wrong, and that's the beginning, because God always gives a second opportunity.
Just as Abraham saw his faith tested with the hardest task imaginable Ofelia will have to do the same, and so his newborn brother will be asked for sacriffice.
BUT Ofelia is not just Adam, nor Abraham. She is also the Christ. So, instead of her brother's, she has to give her own blood to wash sin, and that way gain redemption and eternal life, not for her, but for mankind, cause doing so the last link (the "portal") between the fantasy world and reality will remain open, which is the same to say that God will stay with us amd the promise of afterlife eternity remains.
So the story basically resumes judeo-christianity in one unique character, where she is the God-made first man, the original sinner, the one who after tribulation promises obedience and so keeps his Faith to the Divinity, and finally the Messiah.
Whew.
Oh, another thing...what was the lullaby Mercedes hummed. She couldn't remember the words...there must be some real lullaby with that tune...
Who Knows?
Anyway...Too much ranting. Should've posted this on my other screenname.
The parts that really got to me were:
When that asshole guy bashed the hunter's son's face in with a canteen.
When Ofelia's mom dies.
When Ofelia dies and sees her daddy.
Yes, indeed. It did. Although, I don't really see it as a big deal, because most movies make me cry anyway. I am cinematic sensitive. Aha.
Anyway, some scenes were actually pretty sad; Although it was the ending part that made me cry. And the part where her mom dies. I don't really want to spoil it. But I will. So if you're reading this, and you haven't seen it and you dont want to know the amazing details about the movie and it's tear-jerking moments, refrain from reading on.
It burns!! Aagh.
Anyway, now that we got rid of the loosers...
I think that the movie was really metaphorical. In a way, I don't really understand it-- I mean, I understand the plot and everything, I just don't understand the subliminal message. What are they trying to tell me? Is her dad God? Like, they said he was a"King" in the beginning. And in the Bible, it says God is "the King of Lords", or something, right? But then it also said "of the underworld" or something like that in the movie. So I'm confused. Then they have the grapes. Ugh. This erked me. She eats the grapes when she's told not to. This reminded me of the Adam and Eve story, where they're not allowed to eat the apple, and they do anyway. Alot of Biblical relations in the movie.
And Peter Pan relations. The Peter Pan article in Wikipedia mentions that J. M. Barrie got the "Pan" part of Peter's name from the mischievous Greek god of the woodlands (a faun). Guillermo del Toro must have based his story on Peter Pan somehow. So many subliminal things! & Was the Pale Man Kronus? When Ofelia went to the Pale Man's place you can see some paintings of the Pale Man eating babies, just as Kronus did with his sons.
Pan told Ofelia to not eat anything there, this may symbolize when times "eats" people that stop for a minute.
And at the same time the Pale Man is Captain Vidal. Oh! And then Mercedes stabs the Captain, like, right in the heart! Why didn't he die?? Is it like, he has no heart...or...?
Did anyone else notice how Ophelias story and Mercedes story were exactly the same thing?
Ophelia needs to get the key from the frog that keeps the tree from flourishing / Mercedes gets a copy of the key to the supply room from the captain that keeps the people from flourishing.
Ophelia needs to get the blade from the pale mans slumber to be reunited with her king and queen mother / Mercedes keeps a blade tucked away in her dress which ends up saving her life so she can be reuinted with her brother.
Ophelia has to take the baby from the captain to be reunited with her family / Mercedes takes the baby from the captain to end his reign and be with her family.
The core of both of their stories follows pretty much the same thing. The only difference is that Ophelia, being a child, lived hers out in a fantasy world and Mercedes, being an adult, lived hers out in the real world.
Ofelia received orders from the Faun, who, I personally think, represented the Captain in the imaginary world (he was very demanding just like the Captain in the real world was).
Mercedes received orders from the Captain himself.
Ofelia had a choice - but refused - to give up her baby brother to the Faun, in that way (apparently) denying herself a place in the kingdom....
Mercedes also has a younger brother who rebelled against the Captain and she also had the choice to give him up to Vidal, thus securing his favor in the household (the household representing Ofelia's kingdom), but also refused to do so.
Both received greater rewards by the end of the movie (although in Ofelia's case it was only her imagination, but at least it was a happy one that she always wished - of being a princess).
then...
Okay, so somebody told the Captain at dinner that he had served with his father, and that right before he died his father smashed his pocketwatch so that his son would know exactly when his father died. Then the Captain said "that's ridiculous, my father never owned a pocketwatch" or something like that.
And throughout the movie, the Captain is looking at his own watch (which appears to be working, because it's ticking, but I thought I saw a large crack across its face).
So what's the deal with that? Was it his father's watch? Was it working? Was the significance that he was waiting to smash it himself to establish his own honor? Or did he not recognize true honor and that's why he had a working watch? I was kind of confused about that.
I've got it.
At the beginning there was a little princess who lived in the underworld, where "no lies and no pain" existed. The girl, out of curiosity, ascended to the world of the humans and "saw the light", and so became one of them.
Genesis 3: after eating from the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, "the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked".
Before seeing the light, or opening one's eyes, there was no lies nor pain in the world; not in the fantasy underworld of the movie, not in the biblical world. The desire to know more brings the little princess to the mortal world. Man became mortal, and lie and pain came, the very moment the fruit from the tree of knowledge was eaten.
Ofelia is pure and innocent, and those are the requisites to meet God or to meet the Faun.
She is asked one just thing: have Faith. Do what we tell you to do. Don't fall to the material world (which is horrible in the movie). Keep your spirit pure.
To test her faith three tasks are given.
She completes the first task overcoming fear. She has faith. She does the right thing to do and passes the test.
In the second task she makes the same mistake that Adam made, and eats from the forbidden fruit. She has comitted sin by not doing what God said. The very moment she eats the grapes, the Pale Man wakes up, meaning Evil (not being with God) has entered the world by the act of disobedience of God's law.
This action will bring to her a dramatic consequence, cause there is just one substance that is able to wash sin.
Ofelia is not pure any more because of what she has done. She has lost her innocence, but she is conscious that she has done wrong, and that's the beginning, because God always gives a second opportunity.
Just as Abraham saw his faith tested with the hardest task imaginable Ofelia will have to do the same, and so his newborn brother will be asked for sacriffice.
BUT Ofelia is not just Adam, nor Abraham. She is also the Christ. So, instead of her brother's, she has to give her own blood to wash sin, and that way gain redemption and eternal life, not for her, but for mankind, cause doing so the last link (the "portal") between the fantasy world and reality will remain open, which is the same to say that God will stay with us amd the promise of afterlife eternity remains.
So the story basically resumes judeo-christianity in one unique character, where she is the God-made first man, the original sinner, the one who after tribulation promises obedience and so keeps his Faith to the Divinity, and finally the Messiah.
Whew.
Oh, another thing...what was the lullaby Mercedes hummed. She couldn't remember the words...there must be some real lullaby with that tune...
Who Knows?
Anyway...Too much ranting. Should've posted this on my other screenname.
The parts that really got to me were:
When that asshole guy bashed the hunter's son's face in with a canteen.
When Ofelia's mom dies.
When Ofelia dies and sees her daddy.