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contrariwise August 10 2007, 16:22:09 UTC
Hee!

I believe there is a narrative purpose to the repetitiveness of the scenes between Stephen Black and the man with the thistledown hair.

I had much the same reaction to Jonathan Strange, but I do believe there is some growth in the offing.

And Childermass is very cunning.

One of my favorite things about this book is how she builds the world--England with magic, with the Raven King in its past. I love all the little footnotes that give us little glimpses into this England's history.

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ptyx August 10 2007, 18:24:56 UTC
I believe there is a narrative purpose to the repetitiveness of the scenes between Stephen Black and the man with the thistledown hair.

Hmm, interesting. I'll wait until the end of the books to think about this point, then.

I had much the same reaction to Jonathan Strange, but I do believe there is some growth in the offing.

Great!

One of my favorite things about this book is how she builds the world--England with magic, with the Raven King in its past. I love all the little footnotes that give us little glimpses into this England's history.

I agree. It's very well-crafted. Sometimes the footnotes annoy me, when the plot is absorbing and I want to know what comes next, but they are, indeed, very interesting.

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sander123 August 11 2007, 12:23:21 UTC
Uhm :) I finished it yesterday in the middle of the night (I will give not spoilers!:)), and I'm very thankful, because you introduced me to one of me favourite books of the year! (Besides Kafka's little stories, Ian McEwan's On Chesil Beach, all of Michael Faber (do you know him, he is one of snapeforte's favourite authors ( ... )

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ptyx August 11 2007, 12:47:23 UTC
I can not understand why you were bored with the the gentleman and Stephen Black-parts.

Because they are always more or less the same, and there aren't any character development.

In my opinion the third part is the best, so you can look forward! The thing I loved the most: everything will be explained there are no plotholes (besides the magic which remains numinous) or idle parts. Even the flaws in the chapters you mentioned have a purpose!

Yay, that's great. I have already started the third part, and I'm loving it.

Now I try some explanations about Strange. I'm very much like him. Very charming at the beginning, super-enthusiastic about the things I do, and that enchants the others, but after a while many people have problems to cope with me, because I'm interested in the things they tell me and not in themselves. I think that is the shallowness, you felt in Strange.I think he's like that because there's no one like him, on one who knows magic. Norrell is the only one, but Norrell is very different from him in other aspects. So ( ... )

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sander123 August 11 2007, 13:08:58 UTC
"Oh, but usually the world doesn't want to change"

Unfortunately that's true, but I'm still struggling to understand why :)

"I don't know if Childermass is going to betray him or not; I hope not, but even if he does, that won't change my opinion: Norrell is wise enough to know that he needs Childermass, even if sometimes he doesn't seem to know that."

I'm so looking forward to read your thoughts when you have finished the book! :)

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