on gender fail, in general. And tv renewals.

May 15, 2009 22:16

So, apparently, Dollhouse has been renewed. I...shouldn't be depressed by this news because I can always just, you know, not watch. But...sigh. It's hard to put in words, but this, along with the new wave of Gender Fail on "Supernatural" is depressing me. Who wants to bet "Supernatural" is totally getting renewed, too ( Read more... )

women in fiction, supernatural, gender fail, dollhouse, gender issues

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lyssie May 16 2009, 03:23:45 UTC
I'm keeping my fingers crossed about NCIS and its spinoff (that they'll keep that fine line and not slide further over into "women are just objects" thing so many shows tend to have). I'm very hopeful in that the spinoff is headed by a woman, and one of her subordinates is a woman. If NCIS manages not to kill Ziva (or pair her with Tony), I might even have more hope.

At least In Plain Sight is still giving us Mary, Brandi, Eleanor and Jinx?

I'm not speaking to Criminal Intent, though, so Eames and Wheeler may be down for the count (and Rodgers, while awesome, never had much to do anyway).

AND LEVERAGE WILL BE BACK. And if they love me fully, Maggie will also hang around.

Network TV, otoh, I got nothin'.

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prozacpark May 16 2009, 03:52:24 UTC
I'm not watching any of those, but need to be, obviously. So few shows seem to stay consistently good these days that I've mostly been sticking with DVDs lately. Really, this season was kind of a first for me in watching so many things as they were airing, and look how BSG turned out. And "Dollhouse" always failed, anyway. And I went in *expecting* the fail, but it failed even more.

But...you should tell me if those shows get renewed because I can totally use some faith in humanity. ;)

Also, "Leverage." I liked the girl in your icon (Parker?), and was possibly going to watch more for her.

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lyssie May 16 2009, 04:08:44 UTC
I sort of liked your original comment. ;]

Anyway, NCIS is less problematic if you ignore the producers. But it still has issues.

In Plain Sight is all about broken people, they just happen to be women.

AND PARKER IS MADE OF WIN. And Sophie is also awesome personified.

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prozacpark May 16 2009, 22:22:22 UTC
My original comment failed at English, but there was possibly some Freudian slip there.

In Plain Sight is all about broken people, they just happen to be women.

Why has no one described that show to me in those words before? <3

Sophie is sort of still Jane from "Coupling" to me, but Parker's brand of insanity amused me muchly.

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lyssie May 16 2009, 23:19:23 UTC

Why has no one described that show to me in those words before? <3

It... sort of didn't occur to me until I was trying to explain it. The women are people, first. They're broken and sometimes stupid and sometimes awesome and sometimes frustrating. But they're living and breathing and pretty much taking up ALL of the screen-time.

Er. there are some men, too, who are... sort of normal, except I'm not sure you could ever call Marshall normal. Or Stan. Raph, otoh, is sort of the Sam Anders of IPS (ohgodIneverthoughtofthatuntilnow).

...and I should... like, find me some icons. I at least need a Mary one. Damn.

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