Movie fail, Legion, and recs, please.

Jan 23, 2010 00:26

You guys, why do I have such a thing for Christian mythology and stories based on it? Especially when it deals with demons, angels, fall of men, etc, etc. Like, why do I trust fiction to not take the traditional, male-centered route with it and give me something not filled with fail? Is it too much to hope that women will have a role other than to ( Read more... )

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prozacpark January 23 2010, 06:49:53 UTC
Oh! That looks to be awesome, even though wikipedia didn't have any messiah bit? Not that I want to be spoiled.

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yadre January 23 2010, 06:35:49 UTC
something I'm as (ashamedly!) fond of as "Paradise Lost,"

You know, I love Paradise Lost precisely because it's so easy to criticize, there's so much moral ambiguity, and it basically does the opposite of what Milton wanted it to do? (it makes it really easy to argue against the omnipotent, Christian God).

I took an entire English class on it, and it is by far the most interesting text I've ever worked on.

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prozacpark January 23 2010, 06:41:02 UTC
Exactly. I love the deconstructive aspect of it? And probably have a giant crush on Satan? *hides in shame* But Eve could've been better? But yeah, it's incredibly fun to analyze and take apart and that's a large part of my love for it.

I also took a whole class on it, and unfortunately, in my insanely liberal English department, ended up with the one conservative professor who refused to hear any criticism of Milton, whom she practically worshipped. But I loved the text despite the fail class.

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yadre January 23 2010, 07:31:03 UTC
Ugh... I can't imagine studying Milton that way without having an aneurysm. My condolences...

I wasn't especially pleased with Eve, but Adam's, "Honey, please: the grownups are talking," relationship with her provides a lot of fertile ground for criticism at least.

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meganbmoore January 23 2010, 06:40:50 UTC
I could have told you all that from the trailer. And Eve is awesome.

We can watch s2 of SCC together.

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prozacpark January 23 2010, 06:46:48 UTC
Yes, I know. I hate myself for falling for this every time because I have such a thing for religious deconstruction that I sort of just HOPE for it and fiction keeps failing me? Sigh.

And yes, I'm suddenly very excited about rewatching SCC. I can cheat during the non-Sarah and Cameron bits.

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meganbmoore January 23 2010, 14:56:00 UTC
We can watch SCC pretty much whenever. I have s2 DVDs, I've just been putting off watching it because then it'll be OVER.

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nicole_anell January 23 2010, 07:40:41 UTC
It's sad that the only thing in my head right now is Kevin Smith's "Dogma", which is all about a descendent niece of Jesus Christ and her wacky road trip to save the world. At the very end she learns that she is pregnant with a messiah baby (to her happiness, because she'd been infertile) and I do a happy dance because the angel refers to it as "she."

The movie also contains multiple rants from Chris Rock and Salma Hayek about the church and bible's white man bias. And is probably best known for having Alanis Morissette as God. It's not for no reason that this is the only Kevin Smith movie I unconditionally love.

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prozacpark January 23 2010, 23:10:42 UTC
You should watch with me, y/y? You can cheat a bit if you like.

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lilacsigil January 23 2010, 09:51:53 UTC
That is an awesome movie, and double awesome every moment Salma Hayek is on the screen.

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lyssie January 23 2010, 08:03:06 UTC
o.O what is Legion?

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nicole_anell January 23 2010, 08:19:50 UTC
Have you managed to avoid all the Demon Granny ads? (I admit I LOL every time I see that old lady go demony and run up the wall, and I briefly thought a horror movie where friggin' angels are trying to destroy the world COULD NOT GO WRONG, but obviously it has. Sigh.)

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lyssie January 23 2010, 08:29:59 UTC
The only thing I watch on tv is Leverage! Which apparently is sponsored by Cialis and tampons.

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prozacpark January 23 2010, 22:58:31 UTC
I briefly thought a horror movie where friggin' angels are trying to destroy the world COULD NOT GO WRONG.

I had managed to avoid the previews, too, until last week when I went to see "Daybreakers" and thought exactly that and was doomed.

Also, that (minus the horror part) is pretty much the premise of BSG in retrospect now, y/y? ;)

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