I need advice regarding my elderly parents.

[prog]

I could use some advice, or even just other points of view, regarding my parents. They both turned 80 last year, and have lately made certain ill-advised lifestyle decisions. My siblings are in no position to help, and distant family is distant. If any family is going to help them, it falls to me. And I'm not sure what I should do

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[aspartaimee]

i had to deal with a parent whose life had to change because of circumstances beyond her control. this is difficult on a lot of reasons, mostly because it represents a loss of independence, which is a huge adjustment. i understand your situation is different, but it still puts you in a position to have to sort of herd your parents into a specific direction they may not be into going. their space sounds like it's getting harder to manage, properly maintaining hygiene and making meals for themselves might become an issue, and the falling asleep thing is can be a little worrisome. this usually starts with a conversation with them, since they are with it enough to be able to be active in their care, but for some reason aren't. i

not sure how in depth you got when you talked to them, but why not florida now? why the new intermediary step? what changed with their plans? are they aware that where they are may cause issues with mobility and what-not? are there places they go, people they see, or do they just sit at home? i think these are important questions to ask them (or your mom) that may help you with figuring out what happened and how to proceed. i also recommend contacting senior centers in the area or within the state of maine. not only may they have good resources for you (helping you frame the conversation, providing insight on how to approach potentially awkward subjects), there are sometimes visitor services where volunteers go and visit to make sure things are ok and report back when they aren't. i would also not just do the power of attorney you currently have, which doesn't activate until something drastic happens,, but look into getting the medical power of attorney as well. legally, your mother's doctor, or your father's for that matter, can't tell you anything, which also may give you some answers (not that they are ill, but doing it now saves hassle in the future). it's also harder for you to get their doctors on board down the line if you aren't legally allowed to loop them in.

it sounds like, distance or no, you're the person to whom this will fall. this is not any fun at all, and i encourage you to reach out to trained professionals (doctors, senior center counselors) to get some support on how to approach the situation and have these tough conversations. i am also happy to answer any questions about my own experience, anytime.

[flourish]

I agree with this comment. Basically-having specific concerns helps, but primarily understanding what the concerns w/r/t independence are. Is the issue that moving to Florida somehow suggests to them a reduction of independence? For example.

There are many degrees of help one can get. Don't feel like "if I can't get them into assisted living, I've failed." My grandfather would still be on his own in his own home today if my family'd been more persistent in getting him in-home help-cleaning his house but also checking on his well-being. As a result of our willingness to let him do his own thing, he's now trapped in an elder care facility as a result of one of his medical conditions going way too far. I do think he's doing as well as he can right now-but I also think the situation was avoidable, especially if we were willing to face the fact that he needed more help head-on.

Anyway, my point is, independence is something it's hard to give up for the elders in question, and it's also hard for their children to understand the variety of services available, but visitor services is 100% what it sounds like you need right now.

[radtea]

I'll third this advice, having been through this process several times with grandparents and parents. Getting them some level of local support so they retain as much independence as possible is an effective way to help them, and to manage the wear and tear on you. Both my grandmothers ended up in a bad way due to lack of such support, and my mother and ex-mother-in-law are both still substantially independent because of it (the men in my extended family all die relatively young, so I can't speak to the dynamics of an elderly couple, which may be quite different.)

Getting them to accept that they need help may be difficult, and getting them to see that their current living conditions are problematic (would they be able to get emergency help quickly in the event of a medical crisis, or even a bad fall?) is a challenge and may take some time, but you should think about planting seeds today for the longer term.

One other thing to keep in mind: old people are fantastically tough. They may appear fragile as hell, but I've lived around a lot of very old people for a very long time, and I've pretty much ceased to believe in death because they seem to persist through thick and thin. So while things probably look really bad, there may be a more solid foundation under them than is first apparent.

[cortezopossum]

Another for local support. When my mom was having difficulties we ended up eventually having to hire a kind of housekeeper care-giver that came in mostly during the daytime. This arrangement worked out pretty well until she got really sick and needed someone around 24 hours a day.

Mom 'hid' her need for help rather well. She had apparently gotten to the point of taking nothing but sponge baths and literally crawling on hands and knees up and down the basement stairs (to do laundry) because mobility issues prevented her from using the bathtub and using the basement stairs normally. This went on for nearly two years before anyone realized it.

One thing she insisted on was *not* to end up dying in a nursing home. It was rough but my brother and I managed to keep that promise.

[cthulhia]

all this. also... you might want to add in therapy for yourself, even if just to have another source for advice on how to cope with the rough conversations you're going to have to have with your parents.