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Agents of SHIELD 2.18 The Frenemy of my Enemy
Lots of strands to follow - I thought the last of HYDRA had been dusted, or according to the timeline, was being left for the Avengers to dust.
Um, since when does pretty boy Lincoln know Jinyang is Skye’s mother?
Mike had cyborg feelings about/for Agent 33, amirite? I still think she should run from Ward. I...can’t think wiping Ward’s memory is a good idea, because apparently I think he’s still going to be a psychopath, and I can’t see him going for it, but no-one seemed to be taking it seriously, in their truce/positioning so I should let it go.
May’s way of dealing with the Simmons situation made sense to me, especially as Bobbi was having doubts about the price of being in the Real, Continuity SHIELD and keeps underestimating Jemma, but Simmons couldn’t see it as May protecting her and keeping her active. Oooh, but May, after lying herself, is falling apart over the truths that Coulson’s kept from her. Um, Simmons not wanting to find the truth out seems...not like her.
Yep, Fitz was right to be unhappy about working with Ward on this. (And I don’t recall Bobbi trying to kill you, Hutner.)
Coulson was the one to drop the fact that this was about Skye around Ward. Ha.
FWIW, I took Skye’s ‘Daisy Johnstone, huh’ as an acknowledgement of what could have been, not embracing it as her ‘real’ identity, especially with Skye’s later statement that the reality is they can’t go back in time to the happy family Cal’s been clinging to.
And then it all got chaotic and hard to parse - although I did wonder at Skye recognising HYDRA, and, for that matter, HYDRA turning up at Cal’s office instead of, er, the alley where Gordon did the teleporting.
The pay-off of May and Simmons seeing Coulson work with Ward through Mike’s eyes was good. ALTHOUGH his ‘daughter’ just saw and ran to him, trusting him in a way she didn’t trust her birth parents, even though Ward (who, yes, knows she shot him four times. RUN TO MIKE, CARA! And stop brainwashing people) was there. Aww. Although, obviously, she hasn’t been through what May and Simmons have.
I hate myself a little for the gasp I gave when Ward called Coulson ‘Boss’ I was that caught up in the moment, even though I have my own issues with Coulson, think Skye deserves better than Ward (and Lincoln given what we’ve seen of him, because her landing on top of him wasn’t subtle).
Coulson continued his sassiness throughout the episode in the tag, but of course, doesn’t know ‘the boss’ of the base (if not the Real Continuity SHIELD) is going to be a mistrustful May, and it’s going to be a hard, hard sell.
Atlantis 2.12 The Queen Must Die
It was impossible to treat it as just another episode when characters kept talking about the future, obviously, they didn't know Atlantis was going to be cancelled when making it. And it was extra long, which I didn’t realise when I started watching it.
Yes, so I wasn’t imagining the Pythagoras/Icarus last week, then.
Hercules was back to whingeing at Jason’s dangerous plans; I was whingeing about why they’re caring about one man but not the rest of Atlantis. And where was Ariadne the Archer? So the three amigos go on a rescue mission - and I was torn between thinking that it was cool to see the amphitheatre at night and snarking that it is at night, and thus, literally dark, as per usual - and returned alone.
And then it went a bit mental, leaving me with many questions:
Did I know that Medaea actually was Pasiphae’s niece?
(For all Pasiphae’s bluster, she seemed as hemmed in by her all male advisers as Ariadne had been. Being on the throne didn’t equal power.)
Did I know that Isan was the rightful king and did Ariadne know that? I could have done with a refresher on what happened way back when.
(Oh, Ariadne of the forest, you deserve better than Jason, who should by rights be stinking of the sewer and thus the one to be having a shower, but the show was clearly written by menboys for menboys.)
Since when is Hercules capable of conducting a marriage with due pomp and ceremony? (Him being executioner, yes, but turning him into Friar Tuck was a bit much.)
Where did Ariadne find that white dress from? And did white really signify the same thing in Ancient Greece? Well, it you’re going to the effort of having everyone chant Greek, it’s worth asking.
If Medea had magicked the guards to sleep instead of killing them, I would have been less ‘Bye, then! Off you go!’ I know, I know guards in Atlantis are the most disposable people in that city...
Yeah, that Jason, such a catch. What a marvellous start to married life, to be sure.
The timing and nature of Pasiphae’s death made it clear it wasn’t going to stick, plus all Silex’s smooth sneakiness, he was in no way a Big Bad Replacement. Loved the off body language in the throne room.
Icarus may have graduated from ‘stupid boy’, but the phrase was used so many times that I kept thinking about Dad’s Army. (Robert Lindsay was a delight in this episode, though.)
I found myself caring the most in the Pythagoras-Hercules-Ariadne interactions, and thinking Jason didn’t deserve them. I am so over him - I liked him fine when he was the big dumb hero, but his ‘dark times’ really didn’t endear him to me. Of course Ariadne needed to go with him and help look after him from himself. It was nice for her to have new Oracle Cassandra coming along, despite all the ominous looks, because it meant she wasn’t the only female around, which was true most of the time.
So, it ended on a vision of the future that we’ll never see. And I can’t say I’m sad about that.But, yes, the Beeb needs to rethink its Saturday, family friendly not Doctor Who fare. Maybe not having the adventures of a manboy in a setting that hasn’t been thought through, but has been grabbed at because it’s a bit like something that worked in the past would help. With good scripts.
This entry was originally posted at http://shallowness.dreamwidth.org/175855.html.
Lots of strands to follow - I thought the last of HYDRA had been dusted, or according to the timeline, was being left for the Avengers to dust.
Um, since when does pretty boy Lincoln know Jinyang is Skye’s mother?
Mike had cyborg feelings about/for Agent 33, amirite? I still think she should run from Ward. I...can’t think wiping Ward’s memory is a good idea, because apparently I think he’s still going to be a psychopath, and I can’t see him going for it, but no-one seemed to be taking it seriously, in their truce/positioning so I should let it go.
May’s way of dealing with the Simmons situation made sense to me, especially as Bobbi was having doubts about the price of being in the Real, Continuity SHIELD and keeps underestimating Jemma, but Simmons couldn’t see it as May protecting her and keeping her active. Oooh, but May, after lying herself, is falling apart over the truths that Coulson’s kept from her. Um, Simmons not wanting to find the truth out seems...not like her.
Yep, Fitz was right to be unhappy about working with Ward on this. (And I don’t recall Bobbi trying to kill you, Hutner.)
Coulson was the one to drop the fact that this was about Skye around Ward. Ha.
FWIW, I took Skye’s ‘Daisy Johnstone, huh’ as an acknowledgement of what could have been, not embracing it as her ‘real’ identity, especially with Skye’s later statement that the reality is they can’t go back in time to the happy family Cal’s been clinging to.
And then it all got chaotic and hard to parse - although I did wonder at Skye recognising HYDRA, and, for that matter, HYDRA turning up at Cal’s office instead of, er, the alley where Gordon did the teleporting.
The pay-off of May and Simmons seeing Coulson work with Ward through Mike’s eyes was good. ALTHOUGH his ‘daughter’ just saw and ran to him, trusting him in a way she didn’t trust her birth parents, even though Ward (who, yes, knows she shot him four times. RUN TO MIKE, CARA! And stop brainwashing people) was there. Aww. Although, obviously, she hasn’t been through what May and Simmons have.
I hate myself a little for the gasp I gave when Ward called Coulson ‘Boss’ I was that caught up in the moment, even though I have my own issues with Coulson, think Skye deserves better than Ward (and Lincoln given what we’ve seen of him, because her landing on top of him wasn’t subtle).
Coulson continued his sassiness throughout the episode in the tag, but of course, doesn’t know ‘the boss’ of the base (if not the Real Continuity SHIELD) is going to be a mistrustful May, and it’s going to be a hard, hard sell.
Atlantis 2.12 The Queen Must Die
It was impossible to treat it as just another episode when characters kept talking about the future, obviously, they didn't know Atlantis was going to be cancelled when making it. And it was extra long, which I didn’t realise when I started watching it.
Yes, so I wasn’t imagining the Pythagoras/Icarus last week, then.
Hercules was back to whingeing at Jason’s dangerous plans; I was whingeing about why they’re caring about one man but not the rest of Atlantis. And where was Ariadne the Archer? So the three amigos go on a rescue mission - and I was torn between thinking that it was cool to see the amphitheatre at night and snarking that it is at night, and thus, literally dark, as per usual - and returned alone.
And then it went a bit mental, leaving me with many questions:
Did I know that Medaea actually was Pasiphae’s niece?
(For all Pasiphae’s bluster, she seemed as hemmed in by her all male advisers as Ariadne had been. Being on the throne didn’t equal power.)
Did I know that Isan was the rightful king and did Ariadne know that? I could have done with a refresher on what happened way back when.
(Oh, Ariadne of the forest, you deserve better than Jason, who should by rights be stinking of the sewer and thus the one to be having a shower, but the show was clearly written by menboys for menboys.)
Since when is Hercules capable of conducting a marriage with due pomp and ceremony? (Him being executioner, yes, but turning him into Friar Tuck was a bit much.)
Where did Ariadne find that white dress from? And did white really signify the same thing in Ancient Greece? Well, it you’re going to the effort of having everyone chant Greek, it’s worth asking.
If Medea had magicked the guards to sleep instead of killing them, I would have been less ‘Bye, then! Off you go!’ I know, I know guards in Atlantis are the most disposable people in that city...
Yeah, that Jason, such a catch. What a marvellous start to married life, to be sure.
The timing and nature of Pasiphae’s death made it clear it wasn’t going to stick, plus all Silex’s smooth sneakiness, he was in no way a Big Bad Replacement. Loved the off body language in the throne room.
Icarus may have graduated from ‘stupid boy’, but the phrase was used so many times that I kept thinking about Dad’s Army. (Robert Lindsay was a delight in this episode, though.)
I found myself caring the most in the Pythagoras-Hercules-Ariadne interactions, and thinking Jason didn’t deserve them. I am so over him - I liked him fine when he was the big dumb hero, but his ‘dark times’ really didn’t endear him to me. Of course Ariadne needed to go with him and help look after him from himself. It was nice for her to have new Oracle Cassandra coming along, despite all the ominous looks, because it meant she wasn’t the only female around, which was true most of the time.
So, it ended on a vision of the future that we’ll never see. And I can’t say I’m sad about that.But, yes, the Beeb needs to rethink its Saturday, family friendly not Doctor Who fare. Maybe not having the adventures of a manboy in a setting that hasn’t been thought through, but has been grabbed at because it’s a bit like something that worked in the past would help. With good scripts.
This entry was originally posted at http://shallowness.dreamwidth.org/175855.html.