They stopped showing Lynley after about the fifth or sixth case, which - I thought - was a shame, because it's a wonderful series. Just take Lynley and Havers, their backgrounds are so interesting and showing up in every case (well, more or less). And the reasons you listed were exactly the same I had to not read the books. (I didn't read the Dark Angel books either.)
If you're telling a story, tell t using full-stops and quotation marks, capital letters and proof reading. Please.Second that. I've spent my weekend catching up with some fanfics, too, and I was appalled at what some people put out there. Don't get me wrong, I don't say I'm perfect: far from it! English is my first foreign language and I try very hard to make sure my grammar and punctuation is correct. It just annoys me to - quite often - see some sort of author's note at the end of a chapter along the lines of "I couldn't be bothered with grammar, duh, so either you like it as it is or bugger off". I don't care about correct grammar use in speech. I know I make a lot
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They stopped showing Lynley after about the fifth or sixth case, which - I thought - was a shame, because it's a wonderful series. It is a shame. I definitely ship Lynley and Havers, and take her side on most things, because she's so feisty, and with the class issues, it has a touch of Golden Age detectives about it, and it is always pretty on the eye.
And the reasons you listed were exactly the same I had to not read the books. (I didn't read the Dark Angel books either.)Yeah it just feels as if it'd change my vision of things too muc, and I suppose I feel guilty, because the original vision is Elizabeth George's, and I normally take the writer's side when adaptations are made (apart from on Michael Mann and James Fenimore Cooper. Ahem
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So, what do you think? Would it be worth it reading the novels? I mean, do they contain stuff or explain things that I might benefit from when trying to write DA fanfic?
They're not too bad for tie-in novels - but in every one of them there's an extrapolation of development that I struggled with.I was talked into accepting them as grey canon, but, like I said, it was a struggle. The trade off being that they widen the background detail, which is good from a fanfc writer's point of view: it's definitely richened the post FN world that I write about. From a M/A perspective, there isn't much, though Alec is treated decently. But then, 'Before the Dawn' which is set before the tv series, and desn't feature Alec, is my favourite. Worth getting hold of a borrowed copy maybe although that's probablydifficult.
part 2 because my brain went on a breakprofshallownessFebruary 14 2006, 21:01:48 UTC
I've spent my weekend catching up with some fanfics, too, and I was appalled at what some people put out there.
Usually, I'll scan the summary or the first few paragraphs and click away if I see that it's bad. I just got caught up in fics that started off decently but went haywire in the third paragraph.
Don't get me wrong, I don't say I'm perfect: far from it! That's beside the point when you're reading, surely. If the grammar is so bad that the reader doesn't understand what the writer is trying to say, words like 'appalling' and 'badfic' are pretty justified.
English is my first foreign language and I try very hard to make sure my grammar and punctuation is correct. I tend to think that people who speak more than one language, and most non-English speakers are rather more aware that they are correct in these respects. While some monoglots seem to think that 'grammer' is a violation of their human rights.
It just annoys me to - quite often - see some sort of author's note at the end of a chapter along the lines of "I couldn't
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Re: part 2 because my brain went on a breaklusmeitliFebruary 15 2006, 11:28:14 UTC
I think what happens is this: they're reading fanfics, think "I could do that too, and I have an idea", sit down and get to typing. Only then they notice that it actually is a LOT of WORK. And then they post it and ask for reviews and get some that point out what's not really working and what they should keep in mind for the next fic and then they get all worked up over that. And the next story they write will consist of lots of author's notes, simple and silly excuses for their laziness. That might sound harsh, but it's what I've experienced.
Re: part 2 because my brain went on a breakprofshallownessFebruary 16 2006, 17:38:05 UTC
Only then they notice that it actually is a LOT of WORK.
See, I'm not sure that, apart from 'ooh, this typing of words takes longer than I thought', they get this. Or not based on the stream of consciousness 'and this happened next and then this' word dumpings that aren't consistent or logical that can be found on the net.
Also to them reviews or feedback means 'uncritical praise' because they spent a lot of time typing (none rereading though). They deserve it!
some that point out what's not really working and what they should keep in mind for the next fic and then they get all worked up over that. And usually this is tame stuff. Like a politely worded suggestion to get a beta.
And the next story they write will consist of lots of author's notes, simple and silly excuses for their laziness. Are those the one inserted in the fics? Or the ones at the top?
That might sound harsh, but it's what I've experienced.Harsh? Pfft. Not really. Fair: I can well believe you've seen many examples of it. I mean, I do think that being aware that
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If you're telling a story, tell t using full-stops and quotation marks, capital letters and proof reading. Please.Second that. I've spent my weekend catching up with some fanfics, too, and I was appalled at what some people put out there. Don't get me wrong, I don't say I'm perfect: far from it! English is my first foreign language and I try very hard to make sure my grammar and punctuation is correct. It just annoys me to - quite often - see some sort of author's note at the end of a chapter along the lines of "I couldn't be bothered with grammar, duh, so either you like it as it is or bugger off". I don't care about correct grammar use in speech. I know I make a lot ( ... )
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And the reasons you listed were exactly the same I had to not read the books. (I didn't read the Dark Angel books either.)Yeah it just feels as if it'd change my vision of things too muc, and I suppose I feel guilty, because the original vision is Elizabeth George's, and I normally take the writer's side when adaptations are made (apart from on Michael Mann and James Fenimore Cooper. Ahem ( ... )
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Usually, I'll scan the summary or the first few paragraphs and click away if I see that it's bad. I just got caught up in fics that started off decently but went haywire in the third paragraph.
Don't get me wrong, I don't say I'm perfect: far from it!
That's beside the point when you're reading, surely. If the grammar is so bad that the reader doesn't understand what the writer is trying to say, words like 'appalling' and 'badfic' are pretty justified.
English is my first foreign language and I try very hard to make sure my grammar and punctuation is correct.
I tend to think that people who speak more than one language, and most non-English speakers are rather more aware that they are correct in these respects. While some monoglots seem to think that 'grammer' is a violation of their human rights.
It just annoys me to - quite often - see some sort of author's note at the end of a chapter along the lines of "I couldn't ( ... )
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See, I'm not sure that, apart from 'ooh, this typing of words takes longer than I thought', they get this. Or not based on the stream of consciousness 'and this happened next and then this' word dumpings that aren't consistent or logical that can be found on the net.
Also to them reviews or feedback means 'uncritical praise' because they spent a lot of time typing (none rereading though). They deserve it!
some that point out what's not really working and what they should keep in mind for the next fic and then they get all worked up over that.
And usually this is tame stuff. Like a politely worded suggestion to get a beta.
And the next story they write will consist of lots of author's notes, simple and silly excuses for their laziness.
Are those the one inserted in the fics? Or the ones at the top?
That might sound harsh, but it's what I've experienced.Harsh? Pfft. Not really. Fair: I can well believe you've seen many examples of it. I mean, I do think that being aware that ( ... )
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