More Christmas Carol thoughts
fid_gin's post inspired more conversation about A Christmas Carol:
[8:17:10 PM] Marlena: it's also not so much an Eleven/Ten difference as a Moff/Rusty difference
[8:16:50 PM] Leah: the problem is that, like.
[8:17:13 PM] Leah: I can't separate how Eleven acts as a Doctor with how Moffat structures Doctor Who.
[8:17:26 PM] Leah: because for ELEVEN, it does make perfect sense
[8:17:36 PM] Leah: he always focuses on one person
[8:17:41 PM] Leah: like in Vampires
[8:17:46 PM] Leah: "it's because you didn't know her name"
[8:17:55 PM] Leah: Eleven's stories are all very personal
[8:17:57 PM] Leah: and he loves children.
[8:18:13 PM] Leah: Ten wanted to fix.
[8:18:18 PM] Leah: but Eleven wants to nurture.
[8:18:26 PM] Leah: I don't think he could grasp the difference before
[8:18:29 PM] Leah: and it's a regenerational thing.
[8:18:51 PM] Leah: someone suggested that sacrificing himself for Wilf put him in the mindset.
[8:19:33 PM] Leah: it's
[8:19:33 PM] Leah: ohhhhh.
[8:19:36 PM] Leah: huh.
[8:19:37 PM] Leah: I just figured something out.
[8:19:47 PM] Leah: it's about how Moffat writes the Doctor, but not something I considered before.
[8:20:01 PM] Leah: Moffat's Doctor doesn't think of the consequences.
[8:20:11 PM] Leah: he rides the horse through the mirror to save Reinette.
[8:20:24 PM] Leah: he did the same thing for Kazran
[8:20:25 PM] Marlena: *hisses*
[8:20:30 PM] Leah: no, it's not.
[8:20:31 PM] Leah: huh.
[8:20:41 PM] Leah: that makes GitF really not about romance
[8:20:46 PM] Leah: he abandons Amy and Rory too
[8:20:51 PM] Leah: in much more dire circumstances
[8:21:01 PM] Leah: because he has a job to do and he's the Doctor
[8:20:59 PM] Marlena: but he has the TARDIS
[8:21:01 PM] Marlena: he can come back
[8:21:23 PM] Leah: he couldn't get the TARDIS on the ship. or whatever.
[8:21:34 PM] Leah: the TARDIS is only useful until Word of God says it isn't.
[8:21:40 PM] Marlena: yeah
[8:22:04 PM] Leah: it can hit every point in Kazran's timeline with incredible accuracy
[8:22:09 PM] Leah: but it can't do that?
[8:22:10 PM] Leah: idk.
[8:22:30 PM] Marlena: wibbly wobbly.
[8:22:38 PM] Leah: Eleven said it himself
[8:22:48 PM] Leah: Abigail walks into the TARDIS and says, like,
[8:22:50 PM] Leah: "this is amazing!"
[8:22:53 PM] Leah: or something
[8:23:02 PM] Leah: and he says "this is transport. I keep the amazing out there."
[8:23:05 PM] Leah: this is transport.
[8:23:11 PM] Leah: remember when the TARDIS was an angel?
[8:23:17 PM] Marlena: afgnhrrehtwgraefthe
[8:23:17 PM] Leah: ohhh, Jacob's gonna tear this shit UP.
[8:17:10 PM] Marlena: it's also not so much an Eleven/Ten difference as a Moff/Rusty difference
[8:16:50 PM] Leah: the problem is that, like.
[8:17:13 PM] Leah: I can't separate how Eleven acts as a Doctor with how Moffat structures Doctor Who.
[8:17:26 PM] Leah: because for ELEVEN, it does make perfect sense
[8:17:36 PM] Leah: he always focuses on one person
[8:17:41 PM] Leah: like in Vampires
[8:17:46 PM] Leah: "it's because you didn't know her name"
[8:17:55 PM] Leah: Eleven's stories are all very personal
[8:17:57 PM] Leah: and he loves children.
[8:18:13 PM] Leah: Ten wanted to fix.
[8:18:18 PM] Leah: but Eleven wants to nurture.
[8:18:26 PM] Leah: I don't think he could grasp the difference before
[8:18:29 PM] Leah: and it's a regenerational thing.
[8:18:51 PM] Leah: someone suggested that sacrificing himself for Wilf put him in the mindset.
[8:19:33 PM] Leah: it's
[8:19:33 PM] Leah: ohhhhh.
[8:19:36 PM] Leah: huh.
[8:19:37 PM] Leah: I just figured something out.
[8:19:47 PM] Leah: it's about how Moffat writes the Doctor, but not something I considered before.
[8:20:01 PM] Leah: Moffat's Doctor doesn't think of the consequences.
[8:20:11 PM] Leah: he rides the horse through the mirror to save Reinette.
[8:20:24 PM] Leah: he did the same thing for Kazran
[8:20:25 PM] Marlena: *hisses*
[8:20:30 PM] Leah: no, it's not.
[8:20:31 PM] Leah: huh.
[8:20:41 PM] Leah: that makes GitF really not about romance
[8:20:46 PM] Leah: he abandons Amy and Rory too
[8:20:51 PM] Leah: in much more dire circumstances
[8:21:01 PM] Leah: because he has a job to do and he's the Doctor
[8:20:59 PM] Marlena: but he has the TARDIS
[8:21:01 PM] Marlena: he can come back
[8:21:23 PM] Leah: he couldn't get the TARDIS on the ship. or whatever.
[8:21:34 PM] Leah: the TARDIS is only useful until Word of God says it isn't.
[8:21:40 PM] Marlena: yeah
[8:22:04 PM] Leah: it can hit every point in Kazran's timeline with incredible accuracy
[8:22:09 PM] Leah: but it can't do that?
[8:22:10 PM] Leah: idk.
[8:22:30 PM] Marlena: wibbly wobbly.
[8:22:38 PM] Leah: Eleven said it himself
[8:22:48 PM] Leah: Abigail walks into the TARDIS and says, like,
[8:22:50 PM] Leah: "this is amazing!"
[8:22:53 PM] Leah: or something
[8:23:02 PM] Leah: and he says "this is transport. I keep the amazing out there."
[8:23:05 PM] Leah: this is transport.
[8:23:11 PM] Leah: remember when the TARDIS was an angel?
[8:23:17 PM] Marlena: afgnhrrehtwgraefthe
[8:23:17 PM] Leah: ohhh, Jacob's gonna tear this shit UP.