there is fail inside the fail IT'S A TESSERACT OF FAIL

[prof_pangaea]

hey everyone, i'm sure there's lots of fun to be had with the most recent wank about victoria bitter/thanfiction/etc, but if anyone tries to justify using pronouns like "she", "he/she", "it", etc when talking about him, then i'm sure you wouldn't mind if i took you off of my friends-list

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[kindkit]

*headdesking lots and lots*

Jesus Christ, people are acting as if calling thanfiction by his correct pronoun is a goddamn reward. Or as if referring to him as "she" is somehow a deserved punishment for his scams.

My favorite bit of bullshit so far: "If I say "he" it's like I'm insulting real trans people." Um, no.

[prof_pangaea]

Jesus Christ, people are acting as if calling [info]thanfiction by his correct pronoun is a goddamn reward.

a reward that can be rescinded at any time if the commenter feels as if it's no longer deserved. or if they just can't be arsed.

My favorite bit of bullshit so far: "If I say "he" it's like I'm insulting real trans people." Um, no.

that one was particularly amusing.

[ionlylurkhere]

BRB, headdesking into next Tuesday. Fandom's transphobia alternately depresses and sickens me. Argleblargh.

(LOL @ "tesseract of fail", though; you do have an awesome turn of phrase)

[prof_pangaea]

but don't you understand he LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING so this automatically justifies people wanting to make all trans people's identities conditional upon their approval? because obviously respecting gender identity == believing everything he's ever said??

[ionlylurkhere]

Maybe I'll understand if I get it repeated to me a hundred times!

I don't know how you had the patience to stick around in those f_w threads as long as you did, I really don't.

[prof_pangaea]

i wasn't there for long, is how. now i see that the idea that VB has only referred to himself as a man and not a TRANS MAN means his identity is obviously invalid. nice. because otherwise people might have thought he was really a man, and not a fake one, i suppose. and also i assume because all trans people have the exact same experience and describe it and temselves in the same way, especially if they are already batshit insane.

[drho]

I'm confused by the wank itself, but it's not that hard to use the right pronouns.

[prof_pangaea]

somehow you have summed up my entire response into one succinct sentence. with much less swearing in it as well.

[drho]

If the fandom wank wiki is accurate, he says he's a transgendered guy. It should be enough.

[prof_pangaea]

but if we respect his gender identity while wanking him how can we use it against him as a way to confirm or deny his humanity whenever we see fit? :(

[prof_pangaea]

don't you understand that (ostensibly!) trans people have to prove they have the right to be treated as a proper human being? which of course means ignoring the existence of genderqueer people, intersex people, and anyone else who doesn't slot into what cis people decree is the proper box in the gender dichotomy? which also includes anyone who has ever struggled with being trans, especially if they're batshit, because as we know the mentally ill always have a firm grasp on gender theory and what it means in regards to their own identity.

anyway, everyone knows only cis people are allowed be batshit assholes!

[prof_pangaea]

......are you actually suggesting that gender may in fact be a malleable trait located along a complex continuum, rather than an immutable cradle-to-grave assignment to Camp A or Camp B? BUT THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

ngl lie, vali, i was waiting for you to reply to this entry because i was in need of your hilarious yet sensible outrage. iluuuuuuu.

[nonelvis]

I was not happy to notice that bit of fail the other day. Like violetisblue says, it should not be that hard a lesson to learn that you call the person by the pronoun they prefer. FFS, people should be able to grasp it under the principle of basic politeness even if they can't wrap their heads around the concept of transgenderism in the first place.

[prof_pangaea]

so you mean it isn't polite to deny a person's humanity because they've done something horribly shitty? next you'll be insisting that when a woman steals money from you it's not okay to refer to her as a fucking whore, just because there's some kind of history of oppression of women or something!

[nonelvis]

Crap, I have got to stop insisting that even the shittiest human beings deserve basic rights! People will start thinking I'm Cult of Nice or something.

[prof_pangaea]

frankly, the more i read about it, the more i just don't think it's really fandom_wank material as much as unfunny_business. dude seems like he's had a rough life and is probably mentally ill. which doesn't excuse all the money he's swindled from people with fake charities and such, but it doesn't seem like funny haha snapewife stuff either.