smoking in (*almost) as much indoor paradise as you'll find anymore, aka Las Vegas

Mar 27, 2015 14:37

*- Meaning there are some non-ban places left in states without statewide bans, but that such places are getting rarer to find. And usually, bigger cities and college towns have passed bar smoking bans, with some limited exceptions here and there ( Read more... )

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theidolhands March 27 2015, 20:56:56 UTC
Nice report!

I still like how people can let their kids run nuts and blather on cell phones, but I'm not allowed to walk and quietly smoke in the park at the same time. You know where there is PLENTY of fresh air. However, I did smoke before I realized there was a ban on the entire park (as far as I know).

I'm always seeking a nice spot for a cigar in San Francisco.

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nowthatsbleach April 11 2015, 22:19:49 UTC
Yep, so the truth about outdoor smoking bans, and kids. I'll still (now illicitly, sadly) smoke in parks, despite stupid outdoor smoking prohibitions in whatever municipalities that were stupid enough to enact them. I imagine it must not be easy to find places that are cigar friendly in San Francisco, regardless if it's on some patio of a bar, or at a traditional cigar bar/shop. Take care, and good luck finding those places.

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gringo_in_tj March 28 2015, 00:47:29 UTC
I hate Las Vegas now, loved it decades ago. In Baja, they outlawed smoking in bars, it pissed me straight off. However, this little section of town where I live? They allow it, along with prostitution. Large U.S. cities should consider this as well, just rope off an area and let it go. The cool thing about living right next to the border? Duty Free. Two cartons of cigarettes, $10 per carton. Freedom is where you find it.

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nowthatsbleach April 11 2015, 22:26:02 UTC
Nice to hear you can get cigs, duty free. I can imagine some people dislike the commercialized way Vegas has been becoming, vs. past decades. Hard to believe where you live in Baja Califronia, that smoking was prohibited in bars. I'd thought if anything where you lived, Baja would still allow adult only bars and businesses to decide on their smoking policy. In Chicago and in other parts of Illinois, a limited number of bars still ignore the smoking ban, but those are few and far between. Dunno where I can find legalized prostitution though locally, lol. Will definitely agree that freedom is where you find it!

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gringo_in_tj April 11 2015, 23:09:14 UTC
State legislature in Baja decided to ban smoking in bars, restaurants, etc. a few years back. However, we live in perhaps the sketchiest part of Tijuana, Zona Norte or Zona Libre as they call it. Prostitution is illegal in Mexico (in spite of anything you read elsewhere, trust me, I've lived here a very long time), but in this four-block area it is sort of a controlled ignorance on behalf of law enforcement (they even make the hookers get health cards). Similarly, while smoking is banned in bars elsewhere in Tijuana, here in this little patch of debauchery you can walk into a bar and order up a beer and an ashtray, and they comply.

It isn't that there is no police presence here in this area - it's the opposite. More cops here than anywhere else. They simply endeavor to control the chaos. And more often than not, they are successful.

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