Re: Kay so you don't know me...prettybuttSeptember 11 2011, 00:50:08 UTC
I don't know if it's a money situation--I almost feel like sometimes they gear the show toward the wrong demographic sometimes due to the super random lead in of that wrestling stuff. For me it wouldn't take a ton of production value to make me happy-i'd be happy for some real character development and MORE interaction between OT3.
I'm really hoping for a season 3 too, but I hope the show doesn't lose itself by trying to add excitement to a show that can better be fueled by quality story telling. Last season it seemed like they could pull off a great plot in the same amount of time, so IDK-i am just hoping for a little more consistency.
I need to rewatch last night's episode alone with no distractions so I can better appreciate the Nathan/Audrey dynamic--when he referred to Chris it seemed more playful then, hate toward Chris to me. I really hope Chris did serve this purpose, hopefully we'll see Nathan make a move soon.
YEAH the Rev is definitely putting a rift between Nathan/Duke, but I don't buy Duke being this stupid-hoping it doesn't go that way. I hope he is conning the Rev.
come by and use as much space as you want, it did help <3
Re: Kay so you don't know me...kelso_5September 11 2011, 16:32:49 UTC
I agree that most typical WWE viewers probably aren't the right demographic for Haven, but I think they're mainly using Edge to try to get new viewers who might be big fans of him since WWE is on right before Haven. Also, I've discovered there are lots of "non-typical" wrestling fans who really could be big fans of Haven. Like my sister's best friend, I recently found out, is kind of insane about her wrestling fandom but she was big into Harry Potter and Hunger Games and stuff so there's potential there. Haven has been doing a crapload of advertising on Syfy, which obviously does have the correct viewer demographic. Like every 15 minutes I feel like I see a Haven promo commercial or the logo pop up on the bottom of the screen. Plus, it's on season two, they are hoping for a return of viewers from season 1 and doing more of what they did to get us to watch.
I deeply appreciate production value because if they had shitty sets and props it would be a lot harder to focus on what's happening and believe the story as it's occurring. I'm assuming most of the people involved realize that the majority of their audience share that opinion. So, maybe you would be happy without as much, but the majority of their viewers would not be. From what I can tell the characters are developing a lot. What direction some are developing has yet to be made clear, but I know that it will become more obvious as the season progresses. As for the lack of interaction, I think that's just necessary to progress the episodic storyline. They only have so much time to "solve" the problem. The writers want us to believe that both Audrey and Nathan are very capable people, who can be good problem-solvers on their own. It just so happens that they are even better working together. And we still need to be reinforced that Duke acts largely on his own interests.
Unfortunately with a show that's not taking over the world in popularity, the typical viewer needs what excites them to be constant to keep their attention, because the typical person probably has a million other things they would otherwise watch at that time (coughmyparentscough). Also, writers want us to be afraid of what could happen next, and think they are accomplishing that by nearly killing our main characters in every single episode (or, y'know, actually killing our main characters). In some ways it might have been easier in season one because they were trying to invest us in the characters as they were still being introduced to us, whereas now, we already "know" the characters and so they're trying to do more with new characters and other plots.
A lot of viewers do like Chris and think he had some kind of chemistry with Audrey. Those viewers are most likely not big Nathan/Audrey or Duke/Audrey shippers. There were people who liked Evi, too. And I might venture to believe people who ship Audrey with anyone are actually a minority of the viewership. Like a lot of people love the characters but the main reason they watch the show is not because of romance. It is because of science fiction.
I know it sucks, but the writers and producers do not write the show specifically for shipping fangirls (which includes me). They write for the average fan, who may not give a crap that Nathan can only feel Audrey's touch. My opinions might not be 100% accurate but I hope I can shed some light on problems I'm sure are arising with the show creators and writers as well. They probably discuss everything we discuss in the writer's room and more. It's a tough industry, trying to keep viewer's attention to maintain ratings but also keeping viewer minorities happy as well. Trust me, even a show as successful as TrueBlood is getting a lot of negative reviews from fans. Personally, I still love it, but people complain about the most ridiculous things for that show.
Hopefully you can take something positive away from this lol.
I'm really hoping for a season 3 too, but I hope the show doesn't lose itself by trying to add excitement to a show that can better be fueled by quality story telling. Last season it seemed like they could pull off a great plot in the same amount of time, so IDK-i am just hoping for a little more consistency.
I need to rewatch last night's episode alone with no distractions so I can better appreciate the Nathan/Audrey dynamic--when he referred to Chris it seemed more playful then, hate toward Chris to me. I really hope Chris did serve this purpose, hopefully we'll see Nathan make a move soon.
YEAH the Rev is definitely putting a rift between Nathan/Duke, but I don't buy Duke being this stupid-hoping it doesn't go that way. I hope he is conning the Rev.
come by and use as much space as you want, it did help <3
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I deeply appreciate production value because if they had shitty sets and props it would be a lot harder to focus on what's happening and believe the story as it's occurring. I'm assuming most of the people involved realize that the majority of their audience share that opinion. So, maybe you would be happy without as much, but the majority of their viewers would not be. From what I can tell the characters are developing a lot. What direction some are developing has yet to be made clear, but I know that it will become more obvious as the season progresses. As for the lack of interaction, I think that's just necessary to progress the episodic storyline. They only have so much time to "solve" the problem. The writers want us to believe that both Audrey and Nathan are very capable people, who can be good problem-solvers on their own. It just so happens that they are even better working together. And we still need to be reinforced that Duke acts largely on his own interests.
Unfortunately with a show that's not taking over the world in popularity, the typical viewer needs what excites them to be constant to keep their attention, because the typical person probably has a million other things they would otherwise watch at that time (coughmyparentscough). Also, writers want us to be afraid of what could happen next, and think they are accomplishing that by nearly killing our main characters in every single episode (or, y'know, actually killing our main characters). In some ways it might have been easier in season one because they were trying to invest us in the characters as they were still being introduced to us, whereas now, we already "know" the characters and so they're trying to do more with new characters and other plots.
A lot of viewers do like Chris and think he had some kind of chemistry with Audrey. Those viewers are most likely not big Nathan/Audrey or Duke/Audrey shippers. There were people who liked Evi, too. And I might venture to believe people who ship Audrey with anyone are actually a minority of the viewership. Like a lot of people love the characters but the main reason they watch the show is not because of romance. It is because of science fiction.
I know it sucks, but the writers and producers do not write the show specifically for shipping fangirls (which includes me). They write for the average fan, who may not give a crap that Nathan can only feel Audrey's touch. My opinions might not be 100% accurate but I hope I can shed some light on problems I'm sure are arising with the show creators and writers as well. They probably discuss everything we discuss in the writer's room and more. It's a tough industry, trying to keep viewer's attention to maintain ratings but also keeping viewer minorities happy as well. Trust me, even a show as successful as TrueBlood is getting a lot of negative reviews from fans. Personally, I still love it, but people complain about the most ridiculous things for that show.
Hopefully you can take something positive away from this lol.
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