I would agree to that thinking part, but I think it has a lot to do where you live, who you're parents are and about your whole environment. I mean, people don't necessaryly think/feel like that.
I'm not saying that we're without guilt - no way!
We could also sit down and discuss all of these little lovley symptoms, but it wont help as long as we don't "fight" the reasons why. And I guess this is not necessaryly US/UK vs. Iraq etc. it's - I think - more about religion and whos land they're having their feet on. I mean, acutally it's no-mans-land, nobody owns it - only in that "modern" way of thinking "This is mine, and that's yours". I know that menkind is not even close to be a real "civilized"-world, it's all about money and religion - not even science is better...not the one that's really "sponsored by government". I wont lump all together, it's just that you get the feeling....dunno, that everythings gone worse. *sigh* I really hate this world sometimes - not the world, but the people. This planet is - for now - the only one we have, the only one we can live on and it's the most beautiful one. We're the only "intelligent" race on it and the only thing we have in mind is to bomb us from this planet. ... ok, I'm going to far here.
And my question: why can't we let the people "down" in midd-east live their way and we live our way?! I mean this is no step closer to ONE World, but as long as we fight each other it's gonna be better. It makes me just so angry to see what religion can do to people......I never criticize religion, only the church or those who are not willing to understand that killing others would help making this world "better".
I guess it was Spiderman where this quote is from: "With great power comes great responsibility." But I guess none of the "great"-ones - means government - would listen to it *shakes head*
Did I say that? I just said it becauese your statement(s) sound a bit.. prejudice, so just be clear on that matter (well y'know.. me again^^)
The reason is "we are humans" and the only way to prevent those behaviour is to build up an enviroment where it isn't "neccessary". Humans are bad/evil/with flaw - call it whatever you like - and as long as we don't see and accept that we can't move on. I mean we are here (or there) and think we are better. Maybe not in conciouss way, but (naturally) we think our way (of live) is better (wouldn't we, we wouldn't live it) and that of course influences the actions we take. That's not a bad thing per se, we "just" tend to force it on other people. Like fighting comunizm, crusades, invade other countries to give them democracy (no political system is better then another by definition.. except dictatorship maybe, not sure about that), or remember blocading austria a while back,.. there are a lot of examples. You bring up the religion thing.. well I admit it sounds kind astupid, but when you think about it: can you proove it's not true? your "believe" is that it is bullshit they don't. It isn't about faith or religion it is about that interacting with the world and there had to be a "compromise" the (non religious) world accepts and integrades believes (our society is build upon christians believes) and so must the relious world do like in giving in political issues and solve the problems on that level (Israel) or accept that there are people who have another (that includes non) believes. I think there lies the problem that some people/groups aren't that open. I also would add power here because religion is power, money is power. Money has no worth of it's own, it only represents something. 0,25€ represents a Brötchen, 4,30€ reprents the abbility to go hime (~my train ticket),.. so on a lot of money represents also teh choice you have, your freedom if you will. The freedom to but a million Brötchen or the freedom to buy houndrets of cars or build up an atom bomb. Money represents as does religion, religion is about my personal (and then generalized) POV of the world and people who are active in theor religion can gain a status and therefore power because you can influence people and people's POVs.
Because you have to be tolerant for that, acceoting and for that you have to be self-secure and now find a person who is that. We are in one way or another (not compleatly) because we are "forced" to. For examples law says women and men are equal so both have to accept that, if we woudl go around and tell everybody that men are worthless and act on that in a radical way (like enslave or abuse,.. them) we would be "corrected". It's far away from 100% (if you wanne have that image) but most of the people are "trained" to be accepting. We have a lot of people as well that aren't and that's a point where we have to work on. And again "people down there" is an inappropriate statement because most people there are. Most of the time we sadly only see the radical groups, those you don't act like that (there is also a diffrence between believing/be and act on that).
a) not only the goverment b) power corrups c) too many ignorant people d) too many naiv people e) not many self-secure people f) humans g) too many men ;) few of a mix of diffrent people -> "world of the white men"
well... the only thing I can add here is: agreed. Once more you corrected my view to the world...well, thank you, I guess^^. And you were (a bit) right about the prejudice-thing.....Actually I don't have any idea about politics and social-things etc. .. well, you know.....me^^
not here to correct just speak my mind. I don't know that much about it either so I actually only have a fade picture about what's going on. But as long as I now that and keep my mind open no harm's done
I'm not saying that we're without guilt - no way!
We could also sit down and discuss all of these little lovley symptoms, but it wont help as long as we don't "fight" the reasons why. And I guess this is not necessaryly US/UK vs. Iraq etc. it's - I think - more about religion and whos land they're having their feet on. I mean, acutally it's no-mans-land, nobody owns it - only in that "modern" way of thinking "This is mine, and that's yours".
I know that menkind is not even close to be a real "civilized"-world, it's all about money and religion - not even science is better...not the one that's really "sponsored by government". I wont lump all together, it's just that you get the feeling....dunno, that everythings gone worse. *sigh* I really hate this world sometimes - not the world, but the people. This planet is - for now - the only one we have, the only one we can live on and it's the most beautiful one. We're the only "intelligent" race on it and the only thing we have in mind is to bomb us from this planet. ... ok, I'm going to far here.
And my question: why can't we let the people "down" in midd-east live their way and we live our way?! I mean this is no step closer to ONE World, but as long as we fight each other it's gonna be better.
It makes me just so angry to see what religion can do to people......I never criticize religion, only the church or those who are not willing to understand that killing others would help making this world "better".
I guess it was Spiderman where this quote is from: "With great power comes great responsibility." But I guess none of the "great"-ones - means government - would listen to it *shakes head*
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I just said it becauese your statement(s) sound a bit.. prejudice, so just be clear on that matter (well y'know.. me again^^)
The reason is "we are humans" and the only way to prevent those behaviour is to build up an enviroment where it isn't "neccessary". Humans are bad/evil/with flaw - call it whatever you like - and as long as we don't see and accept that we can't move on. I mean we are here (or there) and think we are better. Maybe not in conciouss way, but (naturally) we think our way (of live) is better (wouldn't we, we wouldn't live it) and that of course influences the actions we take. That's not a bad thing per se, we "just" tend to force it on other people. Like fighting comunizm, crusades, invade other countries to give them democracy (no political system is better then another by definition.. except dictatorship maybe, not sure about that), or remember blocading austria a while back,.. there are a lot of examples.
You bring up the religion thing.. well I admit it sounds kind astupid, but when you think about it: can you proove it's not true? your "believe" is that it is bullshit they don't. It isn't about faith or religion it is about that interacting with the world and there had to be a "compromise" the (non religious) world accepts and integrades believes (our society is build upon christians believes) and so must the relious world do like in giving in political issues and solve the problems on that level (Israel) or accept that there are people who have another (that includes non) believes. I think there lies the problem that some people/groups aren't that open.
I also would add power here because religion is power, money is power. Money has no worth of it's own, it only represents something. 0,25€ represents a Brötchen, 4,30€ reprents the abbility to go hime (~my train ticket),.. so on a lot of money represents also teh choice you have, your freedom if you will. The freedom to but a million Brötchen or the freedom to buy houndrets of cars or build up an atom bomb. Money represents as does religion, religion is about my personal (and then generalized) POV of the world and people who are active in theor religion can gain a status and therefore power because you can influence people and people's POVs.
Because you have to be tolerant for that, acceoting and for that you have to be self-secure and now find a person who is that. We are in one way or another (not compleatly) because we are "forced" to. For examples law says women and men are equal so both have to accept that, if we woudl go around and tell everybody that men are worthless and act on that in a radical way (like enslave or abuse,.. them) we would be "corrected". It's far away from 100% (if you wanne have that image) but most of the people are "trained" to be accepting. We have a lot of people as well that aren't and that's a point where we have to work on.
And again "people down there" is an inappropriate statement because most people there are. Most of the time we sadly only see the radical groups, those you don't act like that (there is also a diffrence between believing/be and act on that).
a) not only the goverment b) power corrups c) too many ignorant people d) too many naiv people e) not many self-secure people f) humans g) too many men ;) few of a mix of diffrent people -> "world of the white men"
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Once more you corrected my view to the world...well, thank you, I guess^^. And you were (a bit) right about the prejudice-thing.....Actually I don't have any idea about politics and social-things etc. .. well, you know.....me^^
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Well, maybe I just need to learn to express my thoughts better....had that problem before^^ XD
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yeah, we know that don't we ;)
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