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echo_of_alex November 8 2004, 15:29:52 UTC
4.) would you beleive that Claire said something
like that once? lol

hey, what can i say, all revoluions start with an
idea and a seriously pissed off person.

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presserrano2020 November 8 2004, 15:34:55 UTC
a lot of people have voiced the same wishes as me. you just need to get out of hicktown so you can hear those people :)

and its not a revolution, its an evolution.

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echo_of_alex November 8 2004, 15:41:28 UTC
lol
evolution,eh? all republics become empires,
history says so. make an empire,serrano, i dare
you.

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presserrano2020 November 8 2004, 15:55:21 UTC
nah. read my info. that's my dream now. empires are built for monarchs and for the power hungry. the power hungry dip their hands into the wrong pool of water.

changing the face of humanity, enlightening ages and ages, dismantling and wholly recreating teh system is where the power lies.

i need no power of choice. its the power entitled to one when people remember. and power is always always more potent when you know you have it and you refrain from self pleasure.

an empire is not where i go with this.

a better world is

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echo_of_alex November 8 2004, 16:07:29 UTC
Its an admirable goal, no dening that.
But a better world for who? The ones that don't deserve it, the ones that will try to corrupt it, the
ones that will take it for granted, the ones that won't notice, for yourself, for your children, or for the few who will follow after you and try to continue what you believe is right?

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presserrano2020 November 8 2004, 16:17:35 UTC
first and foremost, for americans (no clue where this patriotism came from)

then hopefully for the world

i want to reshape democracy to where it cannot be corrupted by the politicians. there is a way.

as for specifically who:
The ones that don't deserve it - blind justice
the ones that will try to corrupt it - they won't be able to
the ones that will take it for granted - let them
the ones that won't notice - see above
for yourself - well i'm sick of this system so yeah i'd be one of the people i'm doing it for
for your children - children are what this si all about. i don't plan on having any, but the only way they'll have a shot at changing the world is if someone leads the dance
for the few who will follow after you and try to continue what you believe is right - they won't need to continue it, it will be selfsustaining.

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echo_of_alex November 8 2004, 16:49:13 UTC
selfsustaining and uncorruptable?
ah, see sam, the irony, every form a government is
made that way, its just when you add people to the
mix, things go to shit. you're not god, you cannot
make the choices of the people in the future, corruption is inevitable, or people who will see
corruption( ask me, someday, why this irony is threefold, mainly due to the person behind me).

the only way to make a utopia is to take away free
will. and you can't do that.

i'm not saying you're wrong, because you're not.
you're refreshing, you want change, and people
always fight harder when their fighting for themselves.
of course, my opinion is void on this whole topic,
one because i don't care much for politics and
i perfer to listen then speak
and two
because my head is too fucked up to know whats actaully right and wrong invovling politics.
when it comes down to it, i believe in the many over the one and one voice over many. i would follow a strong leader into hell but not a happy weak one into heaven.

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presserrano2020 November 8 2004, 16:53:17 UTC
i would follow a strong leader into hell but not a happy weak one into heaven.

that's the mentality that got bush re-elected you know.

the system i'm thinking of cannot be corrupted unless someone completely voids out the people's voice. if that happens, its not the systems fault. it is the people's for not demanding that their voice is heard.

imagine polls where only relevant, gov't topic items were on the ballot. imagine not having to worry about wasting your vote on nader, but being able to vote both nader and kerry....

democracy can work to what it was supposed to, it just needs a massive facelift.

and yes, democracy isnt' the best form of government, but history shows that monarchies and communism just doens't work

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echo_of_alex November 8 2004, 17:11:44 UTC
Bush is the happy weak leader.

i agree with you, democracy could work,
its worked before. Greece had wonderful working
democracy, but everyone in Greece was educated, everyone knew what was going on, knew and understood
politics and everyone wanted to the right thing.

we don't have that here,
everybody's talking and nobody's listening.
you want to change the government, you have to change
the people. and how are you going to convince a nation a greedy,whinny,fat, annoying, stupid people that things need to change? why would they change as long as they're happy eating burger king, watching
tv, and playing games. you're going to need some massive propaganda.

be the change you wish to see in this world--Gandi
smart man, got shot.

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presserrano2020 November 8 2004, 18:49:58 UTC
you'll see. i'm writing out the plans as we speak. its not a flip of the wrist thing. i want this to be well thought out. you seem to want to talk me out of this and its slightly rude. if you want to talk me out of it, just tell me, don't keep pretending you're not thinking it.

as for exactly how i plan on doing things, like i said... its coming. great plans don't come overnight; great ideas do

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echo_of_alex November 8 2004, 23:11:29 UTC
I'm not trying to talk you out of anything.
I'm sorry if i sounded rude, i didn't mean too.
I agree what things need to change, if you want to
be the one to do it, who am i to stop you?
be the whirl wind. :)

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