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alteration_duck February 16 2010, 02:19:00 UTC
"Her chest wasn't flat anymore, she was at least a "C" cup. She had curves, her hips were broad, but not too large."

My personal pet peeve... Why?! Why do people feel the need to do this?! A character can be wonderful even if they don't look like a friggin' barbie doll! I know- it's a hard thing to imagine, but it's true!

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artemis_j_halk February 16 2010, 02:38:15 UTC
Like you said, the Barbie has alot to do with things like this. Barbie dolls take the minds of young girls and say "hey! You're not beautiful until you have a shape like this!"
On a side note, if Barbie were a real person, her tiny legs would collapse and break under the strain of having to hold up her gigantic chest. It's a good thing that her head is empty, or else the massive weight of having a brain might just do her in.

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dtenismaboy February 16 2010, 05:07:31 UTC
Why are Barbie's feet so small?
Because feet don't grow in the shade!

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artemis_j_halk February 16 2010, 15:56:25 UTC
Epic win!

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vivian_lake February 16 2010, 13:48:19 UTC
You can't seriously blame *a doll* for everything that's wrong with society.

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alteration_duck February 16 2010, 15:57:11 UTC
But making a long list would take too much time and we all have stuff like taking over the various planets and cooking cheese spaghetti to do.

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artemis_j_halk February 16 2010, 15:59:00 UTC
Well, the doll is just one reason.
There are others, like celebrities, tabloid magazines, the fashion industry... I could go on, but I don't have all day.

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beacon80 February 16 2010, 17:38:23 UTC
I remember an article somewhere (no idea where) that pointed out that Barbie has some good influences, too. Barbie can be anything from a tour guide to a doctor. There's the implicit message to little girls that you can be whatever you want to be.

The article compared Barbie to Bratz, which the author felt was less wholesome in comparison.

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alteration_duck February 16 2010, 23:02:01 UTC
Well, Barbie is an everygirl-- she is literally anything you want her to be (that's the slogan, ain't it? Be what you want to be, Barbie Girl). Bratz, from what I've seen, is more about shopping and dresses and pop culture and typical teenager girl stuff.

I've never been a fan of Barbie, but she does send that sort of message, doesn't she? I mean, beneath the fashion-and-makeup stuff that they also sell, which then defeats the point... geh.

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beacon80 February 16 2010, 23:09:10 UTC
Interesting trivia. Pixar wanted a Barbie in the original Toy Story, but Mattel didn't want there to be a "single vision" of Barbie. Hence when she shows up in 2, there's an entire party of different Barbies.

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lunalotte88 February 23 2010, 02:11:33 UTC
Also, it's been said that the pear-shaped figure is the most common for women. And the Barbie doll figure is like the opposite of the pear because she's bigger on top and smaller on bottom.

And also, as a small-busted woman, I really get annoyed with the message that you aren't sexy enough if your boobs aren't a big enough. I used to have major self-esteem issues because of my tiny bust, but I am now embracing it! There are many different kinds of beautiful.

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artemis_j_halk February 23 2010, 02:12:50 UTC
Yeah. That "bigger boobs are better" attitude pisses me off. Especially after watching shows like Dr. 90210 where the woman gets huge breast implants or whatever.

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lhazzie March 1 2010, 15:56:29 UTC
See, as a larger chested lady, I find it an odd thing to aspire to. Ok, so I enjoy being able to make my male friends fall over in shock the first time they see me in an evening dress. But, I wear those maybe once a year, if that. It's hard to wear normal t-shirts without feeling fat, with squashed boobs, and office wear is a terrifying world of gaping buttons.

And don't even get me started on the price of bras!

...I wouldn't swap them for the world, cos I've given up on disliking bits of me, but I don't see why the whole world aspires to them.

(Also, late to the comment party liek woah!)

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turtle_yurippe February 16 2010, 05:22:54 UTC
Where in the books did JKR even mention Hermione's chest size?
I mean, come one: She's got bushy hair, bif teeth - imagine she had also zero bust. It's not like she is the impersonation of "beauty flaws" (what people might call them.)

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beacon80 February 16 2010, 17:40:26 UTC
We know she can be downright stunning when she puts the effort in.

I usually assume everyone is more or less average unless mentioned (or implied) otherwise. The only people I picture with large breasts are Fleur, Madam Rosmerta, and Madam Maxim (for very different reasons than the first two).

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lhazzie March 1 2010, 15:59:17 UTC
I always assumed that Fleur had fairly average boobs, as a see her as the tall and thin type of aspirational body shape, rather than being particularly curvaceous, and in my experience that usually involves less large boobs than being curvier.

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