Re: I call BULLSHIT!goddesseirJuly 30 2006, 00:16:29 UTC
It seems to me that you are laying an “if” on the table that does not exist. “If” you have read his other recent posts, you would see that it is much more complicated than her "PUSHING" him away.
He has made no mention of money or the possibility of her keeping the child from him. Besides, assuming both parents are stable, the law states that the custodial parent cannot refuse visitation of their child even if the non-custodial parent never pays a penny in support.
If you knew this couple personally, you would know that they care a great deal for each other and would do everything they could to put their differences aside in order to love and care for their son, TOGETHER!
The attitude you hold towards child support is the reason our tax dollars support welfare programs. If more parents took financial responsibility for their children, the benefit to unsupported children and the nations pocket book (your pocket book as well, assuming you pay taxes) would be huge! It would be a win-win.
However, I do admit that your grim outlook on the issue is definitely winning the battle over the needs of children in our country. Congratulations!
Giving BAD advice based on “if” is IRRESPONSIBLE! Focusing on money and not the child is selfish and just plain stupid. Do us all a favor and keep your baseless advice to yourself!
Re: I call BULLSHIT!fez_rejectionJuly 30 2006, 05:06:41 UTC
HAHAHHAHAHAHA. i feel embarrassed for you! also, it's sad that you care so much about trying to... change my mind? make me feel bad? i don't know, either one is stupid, but it's funny that you would go to all the trouble to write a huge thing... edit it, delete the original, and then post it again. internet drama! oh you are so silly! save your saucy opinionated speeches for REAL life where people MIGHT care.
Re: I call BULLSHIT!blythevioletJuly 30 2006, 20:31:59 UTC
Disturbing. At last I recall it was called "Child Support" and not "ex-Bitch Support." Why should a child suffer because two people can find a common ground. Don't get me wrong...I do agree that men who are entrapped into fatherhood by no choice of their own (this does happen...there are women out there who have used men as sperm donors by lying about contraceptives) should have a say in what level of raising a child they should have, financially, or otherwise. Our court systems haven't yet come to recognize consent in that fashion and it isn't right or just. But in this instance, it doesn't seem to be the case.
Both parents appear to have the child at heart and in knowing what I do of Ryan, I don't see him as an unconcerned dead-beat father who would shirk his relationship with his child simply based on the status of his love interest (which is a completely separate relationship).
Too many couples use their children as battling rams for spite in their own relationships. Its immature and considered abuse. I say my hats off to both Ryan and his child's mother for talking , and understanding their differences so that they can make a good, healthy, clean start, and reality for THEIR child. There is no shame in love and it's responsibilities be it man and women, or parent and child. My blessings to both.
He has made no mention of money or the possibility of her keeping the child from him. Besides, assuming both parents are stable, the law states that the custodial parent cannot refuse visitation of their child even if the non-custodial parent never pays a penny in support.
If you knew this couple personally, you would know that they care a great deal for each other and would do everything they could to put their differences aside in order to love and care for their son, TOGETHER!
The attitude you hold towards child support is the reason our tax dollars support welfare programs. If more parents took financial responsibility for their children, the benefit to unsupported children and the nations pocket book (your pocket book as well, assuming you pay taxes) would be huge! It would be a win-win.
However, I do admit that your grim outlook on the issue is definitely winning the battle over the needs of children in our country. Congratulations!
Giving BAD advice based on “if” is IRRESPONSIBLE! Focusing on money and not the child is selfish and just plain stupid. Do us all a favor and keep your baseless advice to yourself!
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i feel embarrassed for you!
also, it's sad that you care so much about trying to... change my mind? make me feel bad? i don't know, either one is stupid, but it's funny that you would go to all the trouble to write a huge thing... edit it, delete the original, and then post it again.
internet drama! oh you are so silly!
save your saucy opinionated speeches for REAL life where people MIGHT care.
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Both parents appear to have the child at heart and in knowing what I do of Ryan, I don't see him as an unconcerned dead-beat father who would shirk his relationship with his child simply based on the status of his love interest (which is a completely separate relationship).
Too many couples use their children as battling rams for spite in their own relationships. Its immature and considered abuse. I say my hats off to both Ryan and his child's mother for talking , and understanding their differences so that they can make a good, healthy, clean start, and reality for THEIR child. There is no shame in love and it's responsibilities be it man and women, or parent and child. My blessings to both.
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