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Jun 03, 2004 16:26

Crazy times....CRAZIER people....life is so weird ( Read more... )

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dylanbuckley June 3 2004, 22:23:51 UTC
I hardly think it is crazy to feel awkward and insulted when you're with people who are totally ignoring you for the most part. When we got into the car, it was like I disappeared into the backseat. If someone did that to you, you'd be pissed off and reticent too. I was cool when it was just us, but then your friends started treating me like a tagalong with no feelings, and it made me feel like a fucking kid. Put yourself in my situation, and you will see why I got pissed. And then stupid comments like "Do you hate us?" and "THe quiet ones always turn out to be the killers" make me feel even worse. You can say your friends made an effort to be nice, but you'll just be lying. Yeah maybe Lisa did in the beginning, and that was really nice, but eventually I guess they got tired of 'being nice' to me. Try and make me feel like a loser outsider if you want, but if you do, don't expect me to like it. Maybe I'm not blessed with the gift of "self-awareness" according to you, but apparently you are not blessed with a little gift called "compassion."
Everyone hates to be treated second-rate, me included, so put yourself in my shoes and don't call me crazy for being human.

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poontangweave June 3 2004, 22:33:35 UTC
Just to verify I thought you were crazy before my friends came into the picture.
Why do you think it took me so long to hang out with you? Cause I could tell from the first time we talked that something was a little off w/you. I mean come on, a week after I meet you leave a message crying on my machine, after asking me to go with you and your mother to your psychiatry appointment. Yeah uh....people don't do that. This isn't elementary school, we don't do play dates anymore. I have never been around someone with more akward silences in my life. Whether you realize it or not, you are very difficult to communicate with.
My friends did not purposely exclude you in any way, you excluded yourself by never joining in on the conversation. If you think everyone sits around trying to think of ways to make you feel unwanted, don't flatter yourself because nobody is thinking of you that much. I dont know what you expect from people. to sit there and say "edge...what do you like to do?" even if they did it's not like you would respond with more than a one word answer which seems to be be your way of responding to everything I said.
It's clear to me now that you are much more easily understood through your writing, but unfortunately in life we don't have time to write a script out, and we have to communicate through spoken words. I feel like I can have more of a conversation with you over the computer than in person and that's just rediculous.
I'm not trying to call you a terrible person because I don't think you are.
But obviously you and I just don't really understand one another and that's ok.

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dylanbuckley June 3 2004, 22:42:29 UTC
I never asked you to come with me and my mom to my psychiatry appointment... ?? Don't blow things out of proportion. As if you've never had a moment where you were depressed?
And yeah..Exclusion doesn't mean 'lack of fawning attention', it's more like 'lack of common consideration.'
Yeah after you were so rude about that one little message I was kind of thrown but you know what? I forgot about it, because I'm not going to hold shit against people.
I'm sorry I don't pour my soul out to people within the first one or two meetings I have with them. Most people don't.
I thought you were cool, but apparently all you care about is partying and being surrounded by hot chicks (and even not-so-hot chicks) and you don't seem to give a flying fuck about ANYBODY'S feelings except maybe your own. and your cat's.
And please, don't condescend to me. It just doesn't work.
So well, I'm a person who enjoys conversation, and stimulation, and culture, and connection, and compassion, and intellectual arguments. I'm not a girl who just likes to get drunk and party and fawn all over my effeminate male friends. So I guess I don't fit in with you after all. If you want to treat me like I'm below you, fine, I will stick to people who actually care about other people, and more important things in life.
I hope things straighten out for you.
Oh and by the way, I love how you criticize my communicative methods, yet you can't stand to call or even IM me--you have to do it through livejournal posts.

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poontangweave June 3 2004, 22:54:21 UTC
First off:
I don't call or IM you because I thought you would take the hint of "I'm not talking to you anymore". I thought it would be alot easier then telling you all this, and having a big stupid fight about it.
I don't know where you get off judging me on what I like to do with my life, when we have met TWICE. Yes I party and stuff, and did I ever tell you to do so? Did I complain that you weren't a wild enough party girl or any of that? No, I don't think I did.
I said you were difficult to read and talk to. U can deny it but believe me, it's a fact. I never asked you to pour your heart out to me, but ya know, talking together shouldn't be such a labored endeavor, it should be something that comes naturally, and believe me, it doesn't with you.
I don't see why you feel you have to criticize me and my friends behavior with one another because it has nothing to do with you.
It seems to me that you have a serious inferiority complex because you keep saying that I think I'm better than you, but I have never said anything of the sort. As far as I'm concerned we just have clashing views on how people are supposed to act, and that's fine because everyone is entitled to their opinion. Furthermore, if you have some personal issues with yourself being inferior, don't try to push it on me. That's the job of that therapist of yours to work out, not mine. Happy Kwanzaa. Go spend it with the 3 or 4 people on this planet who understand you, and play some guitar on the lawn, and revel in your depressed nature, while dancing the macarena around a tree. Bye Poon Face.

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dylanbuckley June 4 2004, 09:35:16 UTC
Very mature of you, Wes. Have fun getting drunk and living off your rich mama. I can't even begin to fathom the incredible library you must have read solely by the covers.

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poontangweave June 4 2004, 13:59:08 UTC
Excuse me, but seriously who the hell do you think you are? If you're jealous that my family can afford books, don't take it out on me. Unfortunately for you, I don't think coming from a wealthy family is something to be ashamed of. I'm sorry that I don't live my life in a book, engulfing myself in a storybook world, but I have REAL friends and a REAL life to deal with. So you can stick to hanging out at you're best friend's house, a.k.a Barnes and Noble because the only people who would be willing to hang out with an unpleasant person such as yourself would be the characters that are stuck in the books that you read. Enjoy your storybook world, because nobody in the real world is gonna put up with your sullen attitude, judgemental ways, and clear cut inferiotity complex.

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dylanbuckley June 4 2004, 16:47:20 UTC
hahahah you are so dense. That wasn't literal my dear. When you say somebody 'judges a book by its cover' it implies that said person judges people without getting to know them. I'm sorry I'm more into intelligence and culture than beer and sex. I guess I really am inferior!

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poontangweave June 4 2004, 16:57:17 UTC
You are SOoo the dense one.
Nobody EVER called you inferior but yourself.
All I said was it's clear you have an inferiority complex, which you clearly do, since you keep bringing up people trying to make you feel inferior. This is in your head, and nobody else's. GET HELP! A therapist, a psychiatrist, a drug dealer, SOMEONE. For the sake of man kind! I don't know what made you decide that all I do is drink beer and have sex, but obviously you are stuck with some predecided notion in your mind that I can't change. You shouldn't pigeon-hole people into categories, and tell them what they do in their spare time, it's not very attractive.If anyone is judging a book by its cover, it'd be you. You need help, and I'm sorry for you. You obviously have some sort of mental handicap, and I sincerely wish for you that a cure is found. Best wishes in finding a cure for "Unpleasant, unhappy teenager disorder". Don't take your personal insecurities out on me.

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dylanbuckley June 4 2004, 16:58:47 UTC
haha. will do. I have nothing more to say as all the answers are inherent in your responses. chao!

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poontangweave June 4 2004, 17:01:17 UTC
"Ciao"

That'd be the correct spelling.

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dylanbuckley June 5 2004, 16:06:38 UTC
Ciao is Italian; chao is Spanish. Relax--life isn't all about having something to prove.

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poontangweave June 5 2004, 19:25:41 UTC
If that was the case, then you wouldn't have had to say that.

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dylanbuckley June 6 2004, 00:15:36 UTC
Whatever. This is puerile, pointless, and a waste of my time as well as yours. I'm done. Goodbye, Wes.

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poontangweave June 6 2004, 00:20:47 UTC
Happy Kwanzaa, Niglet princess! Eat a poon!

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inthisxfate June 4 2004, 14:09:49 UTC
VERY MATURE OF YOU, WES. I am astounded by your maturity and you are one of the most mature guys I know. You can be funny and hyper but be very serious and take things seriously, too. HAVE FUN GETTING DRUNK with me and dancing to britney spears because thats so much fun...every teenager i know gets drunk and has fun, but i don't see no alcholic in you, your truly incredible. YOUR RICH MAMA is most amaze for whats shes provided with you. But I have to say you are very down to earth and know what it is to earn something. You have values and you never take things for granted. I know lots of spoiled kids living of parents, and your definetly unlike any of them. I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO FATHOM HOW INCREDIBLE you are as person. Like a book, people can't get enough of your energy and character. Everyone that knows you has so much respect for your charm and wit. I love being around you and I can't FATHOM life without you. I used to JUDGE BOOKS BY COVERS until I met you. At first when i met you the first thing i did was laugh and want to be friends with you. as our clan refers to it, "WES IS MOST AMAZE PERS"
Now that i have paraphrased this girls outlook on you, I have realized that mine speaks LOUDER; my words honest and true. Her words speak from judging covers and pure aggorance.
and thats my speech.
i love you.

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poontangweave June 4 2004, 14:15:53 UTC
Thank you so much. Your words are so amazing and it means so much to me to have an incredible friend like you by my side. I can't even say anymore...brain meltdown (or perhaps I'm too drunk, as apparently I always am, to think of anything to say). Simply put, I love you.

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