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Sep 02, 2008 19:23

So, those of you who did not notice, Google came out with their own web browser: Chrome.
My ideas on Chrome and Browser design in general )

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gamera September 3 2008, 12:10:30 UTC
Chrome makes me rather nervous because, if you read their privacy policy, the browser sends all your browsing information to Google. That, combined with the fact that Google already has access to all my e-mail and anything I search with Google makes me distinctly uncomfortable as if you use Chrome and Gmail they now have all information about everything you ever do on the internet in one database that does not belong to your ISP. It may be the way the future is going, but it's creepy. :p

However, since it's open source, I look forward to someone unaffiliated with Google making a fork of the project (as I'm sure will happen). I'd definitely try out a version not tied to Google, because it does look interesting.

(Edited once for a grammar snafu.)

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pontelon September 3 2008, 17:44:18 UTC
There is an option to not send data to Google. I personally debated having it on or not, but went with not sending it. I can manually send error reports on a need-to-know basis.

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the fine print on chrome is actually pretty scary. gamera September 3 2008, 19:18:14 UTC
Their website claims that what I was talking about (sending your browsing data) and error reporting are separate functions that are turned off separately. Is this not implemented in the browser yet? (Which is not a criticism, just curiosity-- it's quite understandable, since this is a newly-released beta and all ( ... )

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Re: the fine print on chrome is actually pretty scary. pontelon September 3 2008, 19:55:40 UTC
Okay, so that is rather shady, I agree. But they do legally say that they can only use it "is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services." AIM actually has all rights to the same.

So yes, they have the right to what you post, but only in reference to Chrome. They can't sell your story to a publisher, since it does not affect Chrome.

Like I said, AIM already does this. I think it's shady, but nothing that will stop me from using the services. ((I still use Opera/Firefox a lot anyway, but just use Chrome for viewing and surfing while in WoW))

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Re: the fine print on chrome is actually pretty scary. gamera September 4 2008, 06:24:52 UTC
AIM and Chrome are apples and oranges. An instant messenger cannot be used as a framework for uploading large-scale creative works. A lot of people upload their copyrighted work to the internet; not a lot of people use AIM to do this. Comparing them is inherently flawed because they have entirely different purposes and limitations. (If another web browser or an FTP client has a similar clause, though, I'd be very interested to know.)

"Let's put up a collection of all the really cool things people do with Google software and charge advertisers for space on it!" Congratulations, you've just lost your ability to sell this content yourself because while you still have the rights, a reputable publisher is not going to touch your work with a ten-foot pole while Google has the irrevocable right to publish it whenever and however they want provided they can give a flimsy justification that it's promoting the service. First publication rights are a big deal.

As long as they can make a tenuous connection, they can sell it to someone else-- ( ... )

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Re: the fine print on chrome is actually pretty scary. pontelon September 4 2008, 20:15:56 UTC
Update: Google is removing said legalize because they f'ing copy/pasted.

So not even the lawyers read the UGLA...great...

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Addendum pontelon September 4 2008, 20:18:08 UTC
"Provided that users leave on the auto-suggest feature in Chrome and have Google as their default search provider, Google has the right to store any information typed into Chrome's Ominibox, which serves as both search bar and address bar. The software maker told CNET News it plans to store about 2 percent of all such data, along with the IP address of the computer that entered the information."

Still weird, but as a company that makes it's lively hood on gathering information about what sites are bad, and what are good, knowing what sites people go to(with an optional feature) is good. And google already keeps track of google searches(duh) anyway.

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only tangentially related :p gamera September 3 2008, 19:23:34 UTC
I am very tempted to break out the Mac and block all traffic to /*google.com/* in Adblock and setting up a google.com filter in Little Snitch just to see how intrusive this is on ordinary web browsing. How ubiquitous is Google?! :p

(Actually, that would be a good experiment. I should really do it!)

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Re: only tangentially related :p pontelon September 3 2008, 19:57:42 UTC
Interesting! I would like to see your findings.

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