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j0kerr June 4 2007, 12:57:14 UTC
Has there been a guilty verdict yet? or do you want to go to guilty until proven innocent?

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mishdogg June 4 2007, 17:14:58 UTC
Yeah man, guilty until proven innocent works for me! And I think "alternative methods" like torture are fine to make absolutely sure you're 100% innocent, and a fair trial with adaquate representation is un-patriotic and completely out of the question.

douchebag.

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j0kerr June 4 2007, 18:51:57 UTC
1. What was your point?

2. Are you referring to American citizens or non-American citizens?

3. Please do not use insults to discredit opinions you disagree with. Example of insult that you used: "douchebag." by mishdogg

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mishdogg June 4 2007, 22:54:42 UTC
Ugh. Sit down. No, there hasn't been an official "guilty" verdict, but it shouldn't take you a solid day of tape showing Alberto testifying that he doesn't recall a single thing about firing 8 of his employees 6 months ago to know that he is, in fact, hiding his own guilt. But that's besides the point.

Listen, J0kerr, I don't expect you to accept this or even to understand it, but I was pointing out the IRONY in your comment trumpeting the unfair assumption of guilt without due process for a man who has done so much to make it legal for himself to be able to do just that.

Now I don't have time to show you where I've come to this realization about good old Alberto, but do yourself a favor and f***ing google him. Hopefully you'll read a few reports and keep your eyes open the whole time. So let's just leave it at that. I've seen your extensive threads on here before, and I can't believe someone blessed with so much free time has chosen to waste it all in political forums on the interwebs. Peace be with you.

-Mdgg

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j0kerr June 4 2007, 23:08:18 UTC
"No, there hasn't been an official "guilty" verdict.."
Innocent until proven guilty. Thats the law. It applies to this situation.

THIS IS A FACT.

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mishdogg June 4 2007, 23:20:54 UTC
Innocent until proven guilty. Thats the law.

You're absolutely correct. Please see the humor in the fact that your good friend Alberto Gonzales does not agree with you.

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j0kerr June 5 2007, 13:05:13 UTC
1. Guantanamo detainees, in my opinion, should not have constitutional rights since they are not American citizens or guests of America.

2. What Alberto Gonzales says or doesn't say has nothing to do with him being innocent until proven guilty. Its just a side thing you threw in there for some reason.

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