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[pigshitpoet]

Japan at Nature's Edge: The Nuclear Context of an Unclear Power

You know that smell in the air, where everyone says, "Whodunnit?" but nobody will own up to it. Well it seems Japan is in denial about Unclear waste from Nuclear power... and now America has signs of the disease. - Peter Barakan (journalist at large)

Comments

[donkeyjon]

I'm torn on Japan right now. On the one hand, nuclear power is considerably safer and more ecologically viable than coal or oil, and the amazingly low death toll from Fukushima (which was a terrible design in a terrible location) was incredibly low. On the other hand, TEPCO is obviously manned entirely by malicious idiots who'd rather let a problem becomes a disaster than admit that they made mistakes.

In short, nuclear power isn't a problem, but if your country can't run their nuclear plants properly, maybe you shouldn't have nuclear power...

[pigshitpoet]

the scientifically unreported short term low death toll, but who knows what effect it actually has on the environment, oceans and other countries in the long run

homer simpson works at TEPCO

[donkeyjon]

We already know the effect on the oceans and other countries. Nothing. The radiation levels are negligible outside of Japan.

[pigshitpoet]

not true. it's blocked from MSM. it's tainting salmon up the coast in bc

there's a food warning for anyone who's interested..

saturday night fish fry

[donkeyjon]

Have you got a link with the details? I've fond nothing.

[pigshitpoet]

this is the one that struck me the most. Dr Helen Caldicott - Fukushima Nuclear Disaster- You won't hear this on the Main Stream News

[donkeyjon]

Unfortunately, the sources you have chosen are suspect. But thank you for giving me some things to read about this. You haven't changed my mind, but you've given me some more information, and that's always a plus.

Helen Caldicott in particular has been perfectly willing to lie and fear-monger in the past. She, for instance, has claimed that 80% of the babies born in Iraq have defects, which is a straight-up lie. She wants to end nuclear power forever, and believes that lies and misinformation are justified if it leads to the end of nuclear weapons (her own words).

That having been said, I am glad to read the claims to get a feel for what people think about the issue.

[pigshitpoet]

i always wondered about caldicott. what's your take on this guy? dr. michio kaku water intelligence scientist, even his name sounds fukushimish..

https://youtu.be/Rrxmy6R3m90

today what isn't suspect? and if we can't believe MSM who can we believe?

in any case, we don't seem to be getting clear information from legitimate authorities, probably because they don't know themselves what will happen

truly, i don't know what to think. i feel like neville shute on the beach in the land down under waiting for the radiation cloud to hit australia..

[donkeyjon]

Michio Kaku is actually a pretty well-respected physicist. So this is a lot more reputable. Though it does come from several years ago (March 2011), and the points he's making are essentially "This could be very bad if something more happens before cold shutdown". Well, they are now in full cold shutdown, so those concerns aren't a problem.

He does, however, point out how shitty TEPCO was on disseminating info, and how much misinformation they were spreading. THIS is a huge concern, as I mentioned above. TEPCO is likely not a company that should have nuclear plants.

To give you some idea of the levels we're talking about, here are the reports of radiation they've found on the west coast of North America:
http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/tech/science/environment/2016/12/07/fukushima-radiation-has-reached-us-shores/95045692/
They have found levels of cesium-134, but they are still considerably lower than any level that we would be concerned about. A quote from below sums it up:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/

[pigshitpoet]

thanks for your clarity and information. i just started out making fun of a disaster that i have little control over and feel a lot of anxiety about, and learned something in the process! thanks for the updates man!

you are a good sot.

peace and understanding
; )

[yes_justice]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/robots-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-dying-probe-clean-up-tepco-toshiba-reactor-nuclear-radiation-a7612396.html

"The robot was supposed to be able to cope with 73 sieverts of radiation, but the radiation level inside the reactor was recently recorded at 530 sieverts."

That is roughly 50 times a lethal dose.

[donkeyjon]

Yes. Inside the reactor vessel. It's going to absolutely suck to do the cleanup. That's what happens inside the reactor.

[pigshitpoet]

you would think that we would have found a way to atomically implode the matter or anti-matter to completely eliminate the radioactive toxins. there must be something to counter nuclear waste.. rock paper scissors!

[yes_justice]

"It's going to absolutely suck to do the cleanup"

No one knows HOW to clean it up. And that is a problem for the long term sustainability of nuclear.

[pigshitpoet]

i can't conceive of how anyone, robot or human can do a safe cleanup..

it's sci-fi scary

[pigshitpoet]

holy shite! really?

now there's a good idea for a ski fi movie - dead robots!

i like that

and it's going to take atomic fallout to kill them

but hey, it's worth it to save the planet

i'm starting to write the script as we speak

brilliant!