When a person in high office states that they have no intention of resigning you can be pretty sure they're already half way out the door
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Two cities - Peking and Taipei.ron_broxtedNovember 14 2024, 11:14:16 UTC
Two points, firstly, I thought it was only the Vatican that hid abusers. Secondly, what straight male adult allows another to whack his bare bottom "for Jesus"? My readings of the N.T omit any thrashings that The Lord gave or ordered.
Re: Dynamics (was: Two cities - Peking and Taipei.)mairi_dubhNovember 14 2024, 12:04:46 UTC
Oh, any bishop or archbishop of the Roman Catholic Church in any diocese away from the Vatican itself (and I mean physically distant) will on its own initiative hide scandals and protect abusers. (One of the complaints by the Vatican before Pope Francis has been that the Catholic Church in the U.S. misbehaves in general
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RE: Re: Dynamics (was: Two cities - Peking and Taipei.)ron_broxtedNovember 14 2024, 14:57:13 UTC
Perhaps Smyth inveigled them with Isiaiah 66? "Stripes". Well Jesus was scourged on the back, not backside. As the the RC bit, John of Galway was a strict Bishop/Archbishop in the 1950s/60s when the RC outfit ran Ireland. He hated outdoor smoking. A tourist was leaning by a bridge, smoking. "John of Galway disapproves" a priest said. "Patrick of Boston does not give a ...."
And as always the organisation has suffered more from the cover-up than it would have done if the rottenness had been exposed and excised at once.
How come this blows by so many people? How doing something TERRIBLE is... terrible. Lying about it/covering it up... is not just doubling the initial terribleness... it's exponentially increasing the pain of victims AND the society AROUND the victim AND the perpetrator. Lying is just so... short-sighted.
It seems so simple. But when you're accused of something the initial unthinking reaction is to deny it. And once you've taken that step it's hard to go back and say, "actually, I misspoke, and I'm guilty."
After that the lie has to be defended- and the bad actions pile up.
I think of an Octavia Butler quote I'll gently butcher... "Once you've heard it, you might think it... once you think it, you might say it,... but now once you've said it, you might defend it, whether or not you know if you BELIEVE it."
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Two points, firstly, I thought it was only the Vatican that hid abusers. Secondly, what straight male adult allows another to whack his bare bottom "for Jesus"? My readings of the N.T omit any thrashings that The Lord gave or ordered.
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Perhaps Smyth inveigled them with Isiaiah 66? "Stripes". Well Jesus was scourged on the back, not backside. As the the RC bit, John of Galway was a strict Bishop/Archbishop in the 1950s/60s when the RC outfit ran Ireland. He hated outdoor smoking. A tourist was leaning by a bridge, smoking. "John of Galway disapproves" a priest said. "Patrick of Boston does not give a ...."
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I don't have a million. TBC on my page.
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How come this blows by so many people?
How doing something TERRIBLE is... terrible. Lying about it/covering it up... is not just doubling the initial terribleness... it's exponentially increasing the pain of victims AND the society AROUND the victim AND the perpetrator. Lying is just so... short-sighted.
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After that the lie has to be defended- and the bad actions pile up.
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