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A hopefully humble response to the debate question, God? or Mother Nature?

Jan 04, 2005 21:33

From my point of view, God created the world, and the way it works. Therefore plate tectonics, subduction, earthquakes and tsunamis and the physics behind it all are his work. In fact things like tectonics, the water cycle which produces storms, vulcanism are actually necessary for life to exist on Earth. However, why do these natural forces ( Read more... )

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allah_dot_com January 5 2005, 06:12:59 UTC

“God is indeed angry with man, as man is in rebellion against God, it could hardly be otherwise.”

Please explain

re: The Fall. policraticus January 5 2005, 06:40:11 UTC

Man has sinned, rejected God and stood in opposition to God's Will. With the entrance of sin into the world Man effectively defected to the side of those enemies of God who have sought in their pride to replace God with themselves. Since God is a just God, a God that will punish sin, God is angry with man. Mankind is under a curse, a sentence of death. God, in Christian theology, is within his rights to simply wipe us out. Of course, God is also a loving God, a God of perfect mercy, a long-suffering and patient, forgiving God, so he has sought to redeem those separated from him, to reach out and gather all who would come to him and seek mercy from him. He has entered into history and paid the price we owe by living a just life, dying and paying our penalty for us, and rising again.

Re: The Fall. allah_dot_com January 5 2005, 22:13:20 UTC

This just sounds like cult talk to me.

Re: The Fall. policraticus January 6 2005, 18:48:33 UTC

How so? How can I make it clearer?

Re: The Fall. allah_dot_com January 6 2005, 20:48:54 UTC

“Man has sinned, rejected God and stood in opposition to God's Will.”

Show me proof of this without referring to religious texts. Faith is something you believe in without questioning of the facts and that bothers me.

Re: The Fall. korean_guy_01 February 27 2005, 20:29:45 UTC

Would the Ten Commandments and the obvious disaster that could occur in violating them suffice for you?

Re: The Fall. allah_dot_com February 28 2005, 02:14:13 UTC

You are brainwashed.

Re: The Fall. korean_guy_01 February 28 2005, 04:02:05 UTC

You know as well as I do the potential consequences when you violate them, unless you consider heartbreak, STDs, and imprisonment to be good things. Would you not say the rules are beneficial in how to treat your fellow man or are fallicious conjectures all you can reply with?

Re: The Fall. allah_dot_com February 28 2005, 04:20:31 UTC

Why don’t all Buddhists suffer heartbreak, STDs, and imprisonment - or will they in "hell"? You are arrogant.

Re: The Fall. korean_guy_01 February 28 2005, 04:33:49 UTC

I've not singled out any religious groups, and you continue not to address what I present to you.

zzzzzzz allah_dot_com February 28 2005, 05:03:10 UTC

“You know as well as I do the potential consequences when you violate them, unless you consider heartbreak, STDs, and imprisonment to be good things.”

Ok right here you imply that only those who pursue the bible are exempt from heartbreak, STDs, and imprisonment - are you stupid?

“Would you not say the rules are beneficial in how to treat your fellow man or are fallicious conjectures all you can reply with?”

Right here you imply that only the bible can educate us the rules on how to treat our fellow men, so yes, I singled out another religious group to make the point that you have no where near the monopoly of truth or kindness as a christian.
Instead of replying to a person who is going to “hell” go memorize some more of your mythology Dingy.

Re: zzzzzzz korean_guy_01 February 28 2005, 05:23:40 UTC

Ok right here you imply that only those who pursue the bible are exempt from heartbreak, STDs, and imprisonment - are you stupid?

Nothing about the Bible or Bible pursuers has been mentioned in any comment I have made. You're just jumping to some wild, errorneous assumptions. The Ten Commandments can be found outside of the Bible, and it's quite possible that those who have been exposed to the Ten Commandments can be rather unfamiliar with the Bible and still find some of those commandments to be sensible. People should be willing to accept any consequence of their actions, but no one is exempt from encountering disaster.

Right here you imply that only the bible can educate us the rules on how to treat our fellow men, so yes, I singled out another religious group to make the point that you have no where near the monopoly of truth or kindness as a christian.
Instead of replying to a person who is going to “hell” go memorize some more of your mythology Dingy.Again, I have not mentioned the Bible in any comment I have made. Bible ( ... )

Re: zzzzzzz allah_dot_com February 28 2005, 05:30:05 UTC

So if I break one/many commandments that santa..opps I mean “religious texts” give me I will suffer heartbreak, STDs, and imprisonment? Are you sure about that?

Re: zzzzzzz korean_guy_01 February 28 2005, 05:33:31 UTC

You know as well as I do the potential consequences when you violate them, unless you consider heartbreak, STDs, and imprisonment to be good things.

. allah_dot_com February 28 2005, 05:37:56 UTC

Oh good, I was just making sure you were not saying I was going to be punished somehow, because that assumption would have been pure fantasy.

Re: The Fall. redbluepill December 9 2005, 19:15:12 UTC

How do you know this?

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