"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the Legislature is in session."

Nov 20, 2010 20:44

Habemus plus vis computatoris quam Deus

http://unixronin.livejournal.com/802308.html

A dollar by dollar list of which Senators got paid off how much and by whom to support S.510, the "Food Safety and Modernization Act".

corruption, law, congress, politics

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doggiedynasty November 21 2010, 06:13:46 UTC
It's late, so let me see if I have this right:

- This bill is going to modify FFDCA (not sure how. Can't find it).

- More than half of the Congress get more money for being against it.

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polaris93 November 21 2010, 06:14:26 UTC
Go to the original item linked in the post linked here. It gives the details.

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Help... doggiedynasty November 22 2010, 02:00:01 UTC
I'll be honest, unless you have tips for it, and even if it's interesting, I can't find myself to read the entire bill.

I guess all I need to know in general is that its for regulating the health of food. Snopes.com states that would be unfavorable for farmers because they're on rules.

And more than half of the Senators get more money for being for this restricting bill.

Am I right?

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Re: Help... polaris93 November 22 2010, 02:01:43 UTC
Among other things, it would criminalize the growing of food by private individuals for their own use -- outlawing gardens. There are a number of other provisions in it that are just flat evil.

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Re: Help... doggiedynasty November 25 2010, 03:49:24 UTC
SO that means, if I lived outside of urban lifestyle and started farming for my own welfare, I couldn't do it?

I see the words "private individuals/businesses" a lot.

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Re: Help... polaris93 November 25 2010, 03:50:10 UTC
SO that means, if I lived outside of urban lifestyle and started farming for my own welfare, I couldn't do it?

Not legally.

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Re: Help... doggiedynasty November 25 2010, 04:37:31 UTC
Haha, I thought that was the point of non-urban people. Having to farm for themselves to survive. To take that away for safety, just seems...

Well let's say you're right, it is intruding. I understand safety, which seems to be the main focus on this month, but farmers have been so incredibly important for middle class and higher throughout history.

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Re: Help... polaris93 November 25 2010, 04:39:29 UTC
Look: the bastards who are pushing that bill are out to destroy this country. Period. Just why they are doing so isn't clear -- maybe they got bought by George Soros or somebody, or they're Communists, whatever. But that's what they want to do, and are doing everything they can to accomplish. And making farming impossible would certainly do that.

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Re: Help... doggiedynasty November 25 2010, 04:49:33 UTC
Hey hey, unfortunately these are the kind of people who were voted in for some reason and are being bribed. All we can do is be informants.

Just know that I'm on your side about this.

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Re: Help... polaris93 November 25 2010, 05:04:54 UTC
Hey hey, unfortunately these are the kind of people who were voted in for some reason and are being bribed. All we can do is be informants.

We can be informants -- and in fact we are doing the job that the media used to do, bringing vitally important information to the public's attention via the Blogosphere and email. And in fact we are doing it much better, and on a far larger scale, than the media ever did -- we can communicate with others at the speed of light now, and people the world over can read our blogs. Because of which I blog everything I can about the bastards who are trying to destroy us and our country, and share that information via email, telephone conversations, and face-to-face interactions with everyone I know. Unfortunately, some individuals where I live -- you have to be 62 years old or older to live here -- react to such information as if it were blasphemous, because they have embraced the Left's platform like a religion, and won't listen. But the rest check it out to the best of their ability, and some have ( ... )

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Media... doggiedynasty November 30 2010, 03:07:42 UTC
You post down articles incredibly fast that I can't keep up with them all (lol). It also shows your passion in this ( ... )

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Re: Media... polaris93 November 30 2010, 03:28:09 UTC
You post down articles incredibly fast that I can't keep up with them all (lol). It also shows your passion in this.

Well, I'm disabled, and have a lot of time on my hands, so I've got the time to do it. And in doing so, I get a lot of return fire in the form of intelligent comments on my posts, and that often leads to incredibly productive correspondence and relationships. :-)

I should tell you that I listen to Left guys. Matter of fact, I prefer them. I listen to the Right too sometimes but parties are tools of vying.

I listen to everybody, then post about what I find interesting, and my reactions to it all. The world is not all one way, but rather an incredibly complex whole. Human beings are individuals with finite lifespans, each of whom can only sample a little bit of the world and its history before dying. So nobody has got a complete handle on it all, or on even a tiny bit of it. And while people may label themselves "Left" or "Right," in fact their views will overlap significantly with those of persons who label ( ... )

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Re: Media... doggiedynasty December 1 2010, 19:27:36 UTC
Hey hey, why do you keep calling the Left Anti-American ( ... )

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Re: Media... polaris93 December 1 2010, 19:53:08 UTC
Hey hey, why do you keep calling the Left Anti-American?

Because in my time, they have laughed at me and jeered at me for being an American, for loving my country, for caring about what happens to it, for not liking government interference in our lives, and, above all, for being a Constitutionalist (they hate the US Constitution, by their own admission). Next question.

Aside from that, I thank you for your patience and politeness with me so far.

You're most welcome. :-)

>>Being sick
Ah, I'm sorry to hear that. I saw a recent entry of yours and thought you were sick in some kind of way, like leukemia.

No. I have other problems, such as endless neck-spasms for which I have to take a muscle-relaxant that leaves me groggy much of the time -- otherwise I'm in pain so bad it drives me mad. And there are other chronic problems.

>>Nazi ( ... )

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Re: Media... doggiedynasty December 1 2010, 20:31:30 UTC
So you have views of Constitution and Liberaterian Parties. Pretty unique. As for those Left guys who keep harassing you, they probably take progression to a whole new level. Probably radicals. Never heard of anti-Constitution on the Left but it probably has to do with the reform tendencies ( ... )

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Re: Media... polaris93 December 2 2010, 01:17:17 UTC
So you have views of Constitution and Liberaterian Parties. Pretty unique. As for those Left guys who keep harassing you, they probably take progression to a whole new level. Probably radicals. Never heard of anti-Constitution on the Left but it probably has to do with the reform tendencies.

Treating the Constitution as a "living document," attempting to change it without a constitutional process, is anti-Constitutional -- and that's what Hillary Clinton and the rest of the Left want to do. And it isn't just me who gets that crap from the Left -- it's conservatives and students and everybody else in general.

Hey, I like the Constitution too. It's an important piece from the first leaders of America.

It's the law of the land, and it's there to keep citizens safe from their own government.

If it gets changed, then some of us can't vote you know. But I guess, Progressives naturally want to change a thing or two. It doesn't necessary have to be bad, just depends on what. Things can't always stay the same. It's choice making.Depending ( ... )

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