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Apr 20, 2009 21:19

Since I don't have a dual layer DVD, I've copied the OSX 10.5 DVD image to an external hard drive, booted from it, and I'm now making a backup image of my internal disk to another external drive before I wipe the whole lot and put 10.5 on.

I'm really glad I think I know what I'm doing.

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madda_gaska April 20 2009, 20:37:05 UTC
No! Stop! Install not the Mac OS! You know not what you do!

Seriously, man, just install BSD properly and leave the dumb apple shit off the poor computer...

S

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hirez April 20 2009, 23:02:05 UTC
OS X is NBG for a swerver, but it is truly The Shit on a workstation. 10.5 especially so.

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madda_gaska April 21 2009, 05:41:22 UTC
I've just been distinctly unimpressed with Apple's responses to security issues, and on having to support the bloody things (people keep buying them and wanting them to work exactly the same way with their Windows network that a Windows PC will- to put it politely it is irksome) I've also found myself less than impressed.
Especially with dealing with fileshares on Windows systems. Can't handle hidden shares because Apple can't be bothered to keep Samba up to date, and with the latest release you can only map fileshares on logon and have shortcuts to them by digging into the command line- sure, I can do that, but is it user friendly for the average no-IT-Joe who buys a Mac?

Sure, it might have some use when being used standalone for graphical (or audio?) tasks, but otherwise I think it's far more sensible to go for either Windows or one of the 'lite' flavours of Linux.

S

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hirez April 21 2009, 07:16:04 UTC
Well, yes. Apple's idea of patching is made of horrible fail (... To back out a patch, backup your data and reinstall the OS... Riiiight. ) which is one of the reasons I say 'NBG for a server'

People wanting daft things isn't really Apple's fault, but I must admit that since my work box is still on 10.4, I've not seen that problem. I also barely use the Windows servers - most of my desktop is a pile of SSH sessions into far-away unix kit. I use the thing in much the same way that I've used all my other Unix workstations, now I think about it.

Although the HP-UX box was a lot more use at drying out damp cycling kit.

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madda_gaska April 22 2009, 17:42:55 UTC
It's not so much how daft things people want are... it's more that you could work with Windows shares much better... in the previous version of the OS. What, did Apple suddenly get a dominant marketshare overnight and decide they don't need to work with Windows machines in a user friendly way?
If Apple did gain a dominant marketshare overnight I think I'm going to see if I can go work in a coffee shop.

Wishing I barely had to deal with user level crap myself. I don't want to know that Apple are being arsey about setting up file shares at all. Just let me loose with the switches, firewalls, and any other interesting gear. Servers? I guess, sure, why not, we can do a bit with those as well.
Sadly, not an option at the moment (maybe if I print my CV then go force feed it to a recruiter so they have to at least give some response- even if it's only choking).

I can imagine it would've been- though I'm not sure it's the healthiest way for it to be operating- unless HP stands for something to do with Humidifiers now...

S

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