Hmmm... I find it really sad, yet not unexpected, that there are really no comments or posts on LJ or DW about this episode. The splintering of fandom in general continues and POI has other things to contend with as well. I suppose it's understandable with all the shock and sadness and ager still going on through the fandom, all the divisions between groups, but it's still very sad.
I know some authors are still writing, yet for me, that's become difficult as well. This fandom is very different from any I've been involved with over the years and while I've tried to do my part to help it thrive and keep it going, I've begun to wonder why or if I should. Whether it's being torn apart by the forces from within or the move of fandom to other platforms leaving no central core or just by apathy -- and it's probably a bit of all three -- I am sad to see that in the middle of the third season of this promising show the fandom is just slipping away.
I feel you and I'm really sad too. I'm sad and puzzled, because I don’t understand this fandom. I’m not a teenager, I’m 28 years old and a 100% pure fangirl, I’ve been actively around fandoms for at least 10 years and never before had I bumped into such a peculiar “environment
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Yes, I see what you're saying too. The whole choosing sides thing mystifies me. Why does there have to be a right or wrong, especially since this isn't a show about romance? Yet, any time I've made that point, I've been shot down. I come from old school Trek fandom where other points of view are not just tolerated but encouraged. Nobody tries to drum you out of the fandom if you don't agree with them and all are welcome to enjoy the show the way each person wants to. The philosophy of IDIC, Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations that Spock talked about wasn't just in the show but the fandom. And in other fandoms as well, there's a live and let live attitude. Some people like one thing, others like something else. And that should be okay. At least we all like the show, was the usual attitude, even if we prefer certain aspects over others. But not so in POI -- if you ship one couple, then you're welcome but if you like the other possiblity, watch out. If you like the mythology, the new character or, god forbid, actually have
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"I don't appreciate them taking things Reese said to anyone he passed on the street for two years and having him suddenly forget all that to tell Carter it was always all about her."
You know, I've praised the writers from the very first moment, for killing Carter off, because it really takes courage. I only wish they hadn't chickened out about it, making her a martyr, a badass and a saint before doing so. It's much easier this way, not so brave anymore. We don't always get to die as heroes, yet she could have done so all the same, even without all those absurd lines delivered by John, and the super scheme she had planned ALL by herself that the writers felt the need to add before her demise.
"I understand that Jim C doesn't want to break any bones doing fight scenes but one of the things I enjoyed first season was those fight scenes."
Yes... Yes. Sigh. But, as you said, we don't really know how to deal with all this.
Let's watch and wait, I guess.
It was really nice though to see that someone shares my view on this, thanks!
I agree with the above in 2 ways. One, that online divisions and nastiness in fandom are just sad. I'd like to think that fans of a show as smart as POI, would be more tolerant. Two, I've been disappointed in the writing quality of S3; I prefer S1 and S2. That said, I'd hate for POI to lose its momentum and its fandom both, since it's a show I adore and it's made me think a lot about what's going on with privacy issues in our society and with the internet. I can't say that for a lot of TV, that it's thought-provoking to that extent. And while I do understand JC wanting to shed a bit of his workload and protect his health, and I wish him well and hope that works, I liked the show better when it was just him, Finch, Carter and Fusco. And I also didn't see the need for the writers to make some sort of last minute romance between him and Carter. It seemed like they were saying John would only mourn her if they'd been in love, which seems ludicrous to me. Are we supposed to assume that Fusco loved her romantically too? And Finch
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I know some authors are still writing, yet for me, that's become difficult as well. This fandom is very different from any I've been involved with over the years and while I've tried to do my part to help it thrive and keep it going, I've begun to wonder why or if I should. Whether it's being torn apart by the forces from within or the move of fandom to other platforms leaving no central core or just by apathy -- and it's probably a bit of all three -- I am sad to see that in the middle of the third season of this promising show the fandom is just slipping away.
FWIW, here is my post on my own LJ about this ep.
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You know, I've praised the writers from the very first moment, for killing Carter off, because it really takes courage. I only wish they hadn't chickened out about it, making her a martyr, a badass and a saint before doing so. It's much easier this way, not so brave anymore.
We don't always get to die as heroes, yet she could have done so all the same, even without all those absurd lines delivered by John, and the super scheme she had planned ALL by herself that the writers felt the need to add before her demise.
"I understand that Jim C doesn't want to break any bones doing fight scenes but one of the things I enjoyed first season was those fight scenes."
Yes... Yes. Sigh. But, as you said, we don't really know how to deal with all this.
Let's watch and wait, I guess.
It was really nice though to see that someone shares my view on this, thanks!
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