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duckondebut October 9 2014, 05:21:58 UTC
The way the characters were paired off set up some promising things throughout the season. Dean is comfortable with his demonic half, just as long as it doesn’t ask him to make any choices or do any self-reflection. Cas is struggling to live up to Hannah’s angelic missions and expectations. And Sam is trapped in a no-win situation with another man who insists that humanity itself is conditional.

.... DUN DUN DUN!

This episode did so many amazing things with all of the characters. I'm just afraid of the inevitable fetishisation of Sam's suffering/desperation--that I haven't yet seen on my dash, but must be out there somewhere.

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pocochina October 9 2014, 06:50:51 UTC
I'm just afraid of the inevitable fetishisation of Sam's suffering/desperation--that I haven't yet seen on my dash, but must be out there somewhere.

ugh, it makes me gag. Not the actual narrative, ofc, but the response to it. I do feel like this could end up being a good step, that now he knows he's eliminated this one of Dean's favorite pretexts for guilt-tripping him into compliance - but that is the opposite of what I get the idea fandom wants it to do, lol.

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pinkphoenix1985 October 9 2014, 16:02:54 UTC
Yay! I love that a new season means that you're back reviewing because I absolutely love "watching" the show through your eyes since I can't really stomach the actual show anymore without wanting to break something. There is a lot of potential here with Dean which most likely will be derailed by fans and Carver at some point because they can't have this reality of him for so long. I just hope that they don't go down the demon blood drinking route for Sam because that is dead.

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ellie_234 October 9 2014, 16:24:45 UTC
From what I understand Demon Dean is gone by episode 3/4 . I admit I have not watched the premiere last season left such a nasty taste and crossed a line for me that all I want to do is smack DD one.

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pinkphoenix1985 October 9 2014, 17:34:48 UTC
Yeah, that is what I've heard too :(

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pocochina October 9 2014, 20:34:28 UTC
Well thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the post.

I'm loath to blame fans' willful obliviousness on Carver, tbh; I think the episode was ON POINT wrt the problems with Dean's mindset. I would point to the great scene where he's fishing for validation from a damsel in distress and she tells him point-blank that "what you did wasn't about me, it was about you". It does all but run a ticker across the bottom of the screen. Fans are derailing already, with lots of superficial "you go girl!"s without acknowledging the context at all. That doesn't mean the context isn't there.

Concerning the demon blood, that is an interesting question. I think it would be hard to keep it from turning into fanservice for the people who want to demonize Sam and say he's just! as! bad! as Dean, but otoh, Sam really coming to terms with the fact that having demon blood in him doesn't make him any less of a person is something that definitely hasn't been done. So...I don't know! I think it looks less likely than likely at this point, though.

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