Sam, again, gives way more ground than was healthy for him to do, because he projects onto Dean and really thinks Dean wants to make things work. haha, bby, ur 2 qt. I do think this scene served to clarify something people have been crying about since last week.
Realistically, for the show to continue Sam and Dean have to work things out, so Sam giving ground is kind of necessary. From a real life psychological POV, Sam wants to make this a healthy working relationship. He has since season one. Back then he wanted a normal we call each other every week and get together for holidays and maybe vacations and Dean can crash at my house kind of healthy relationship, but now he's back to every time I try to get out, they pull me back in, so he's trying to get a healthy working relationship. I do understand Sam has very few resources outside of Dean. Amelia is with Don and Sam burned that bridge. Amelia, I think, is smart enough to have meant what she said, if Sam wasn't 100% in then she wasn't going to wait around, which is healthy for her. Kevin and Bobby are dead. Cas is still closer to Dean than Sam, I think and he still sees Dean as "the righteous man". Cas had that belief instilled in him and that conditioning will be hard to overcome. When you add the Cas saved Dean and then renounced home and family for Dean that's a lot to overcome, especially for the boy with demon blood who housed Lucifer. Prejudices die hard. Take Sam's demon blood and being Lucifer's vessel and then being insane plus Sam being a natural introvert and add Dean's isolation techniques and Sam is left with very little to fall back on. So he cedes more than he should, but at least Sam is seeing the truth that Dean is controlling and abusive and he is not folding under Dean's machinations. So baby steps.
Fandom excusing Dean and blaming the victim is already getting really nasty and I'm sure will get worse. I'm planning on hiding out here and other safe places. I will say the Doc Benton Zombie Frankenstein example is actually setting some people back because it is a pretty good parallel. I did get push back from someone who said well Sam locked Dean in the panic room so he wouldn't say yes to Michael, wasn't that taking away Dean's right to choose for himself. Which no, IF Sam had locked him in the panic room it is NOT the same as renting out Dean's body for his own good. However since Sam let Dean OUT of the panic room, after Cas and Bobby locked him in, because Sam believed in Dean it really isn't the same thing. It just astounds me the lengths people will go to absolve Dean of any guilt.
Agreed with your take on why Sam is doing what he's doing, and I actually am impressed that the show seems to be finding a way to handle it that's realistic and not minimizing the problem.
Fandom excusing Dean and blaming the victim is already getting really nasty and I'm sure will get worse.
It's horrifying, and that's even with the knowledge that I'm avoiding the vast majority of it. I pretty much only see the crap that comes across my dash already shot down and it's still extremely upsetting.
Realistically, for the show to continue Sam and Dean have to work things out, so Sam giving ground is kind of necessary. From a real life psychological POV, Sam wants to make this a healthy working relationship. He has since season one. Back then he wanted a normal we call each other every week and get together for holidays and maybe vacations and Dean can crash at my house kind of healthy relationship, but now he's back to every time I try to get out, they pull me back in, so he's trying to get a healthy working relationship. I do understand Sam has very few resources outside of Dean. Amelia is with Don and Sam burned that bridge. Amelia, I think, is smart enough to have meant what she said, if Sam wasn't 100% in then she wasn't going to wait around, which is healthy for her. Kevin and Bobby are dead. Cas is still closer to Dean than Sam, I think and he still sees Dean as "the righteous man". Cas had that belief instilled in him and that conditioning will be hard to overcome. When you add the Cas saved Dean and then renounced home and family for Dean that's a lot to overcome, especially for the boy with demon blood who housed Lucifer. Prejudices die hard. Take Sam's demon blood and being Lucifer's vessel and then being insane plus Sam being a natural introvert and add Dean's isolation techniques and Sam is left with very little to fall back on. So he cedes more than he should, but at least Sam is seeing the truth that Dean is controlling and abusive and he is not folding under Dean's machinations. So baby steps.
Fandom excusing Dean and blaming the victim is already getting really nasty and I'm sure will get worse. I'm planning on hiding out here and other safe places. I will say the Doc Benton Zombie Frankenstein example is actually setting some people back because it is a pretty good parallel. I did get push back from someone who said well Sam locked Dean in the panic room so he wouldn't say yes to Michael, wasn't that taking away Dean's right to choose for himself. Which no, IF Sam had locked him in the panic room it is NOT the same as renting out Dean's body for his own good. However since Sam let Dean OUT of the panic room, after Cas and Bobby locked him in, because Sam believed in Dean it really isn't the same thing. It just astounds me the lengths people will go to absolve Dean of any guilt.
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Fandom excusing Dean and blaming the victim is already getting really nasty and I'm sure will get worse.
It's horrifying, and that's even with the knowledge that I'm avoiding the vast majority of it. I pretty much only see the crap that comes across my dash already shot down and it's still extremely upsetting.
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