Metatron’s mind games with Gadreel were pitch-perfect. He rides Gadreel about you’re a screw-up, nobody’ll have you but me, you have to fight more and harder and maybe just maybe I’ll give you a way out of this shame spiral which you’re only in because you’re such a failure, have we talked lately about how I’m a saint for not reminding you of that
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Not so much that Sam would fight back but that Sam and Castiel would rush to defend his honor . Not consciously mind but I feel like Dean wanted to hear from his brother or Castiel that he wasn't all bad or that hey understood or some minor ego-stroking and when he didn't get it he didn't really know what to do. Dean loves to guilt-trip so I saw it less as wanting the confrontation as needing (desperately needing) the validation. Part of him I am sure thinks he is a TERRIBLE HORRIBLE HUMAN BEING but... for all the wrong reasons whereas his attitude for Sam has always been justified or worked out in his favor.
Also Sam as "Sloppy Seconds." Because the rape-y imagery of Sam Winchester isn't there enough.
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I'm speaking as a victim here but some part of me is like SERVES U RITE U MAN CREATURE but then it dies because I know male survivors and no one deserves to be talked about that way. But the fact that Sam is a white guy makes it easy for me to digest in the sense these jokes are common place and wtf wouldn't he? When it's a woman it just bugs me cos I live it and don't want to see it. as for men of color - their violations are often racial in a way I don't know emotionally and so I would have a total different emotional reaction
//SUBJECTIVE
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YES. On your whole analysis of this scene, really. He was totally trying to manage Sam's emotional response to the whole thing. THAT. THAT IS THE PROBLEM, DEAN.
I'm not as optimistic as you because I can see Cas going into Dean is such a good man. He did what he did for love and you two belong together so you need to forgive Dean.I...actually can see that happening, and on the one hand it'll make me sad because, you know, I want Sam to have someone totally on his side. But from an outsider perspective, I think that the episode did a really thoughtful job setting up why Cas is so uncomfortable being an actual moral voice on this. I think Cas is having that lives-in-glass-houses fear that Sam usually has. Like, the fact that he sees through Dean's "I ( ... )
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I love this description. So much.
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I kind of think he buys Sam and Dean's true love lie and I can't blame him.
Oh, he totally buys it, and it breaks my heart.
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Of course people are already going on about how ~sorry he is and how ~guilty he feels. No, he's sorry there were consequences. He's sorry he got caught.
SAM MY POOR BABY. He's better off now than he's been for a very long time, now that Dean's finally overplayed his hand
I've never felt Sam's voice has been lost in a narrative sense. He's lost the much of his ability to voice his own feelings but that's not the same as the narrative not caring about Sam's character.
EXACTLY and it upsets me so much that people conflate those two things. I can't articulate my feelings either, what, am I not a real person? GOD.
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It's okay if it didn't to others! That's just a different story than there is nothing at all from Sam's pov.
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This is not to say Castiel would not have chosen to stay with Sam, just that the option to leave really wasn't there.
Rock On!
Alley
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