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ever_neutral January 6 2014, 04:44:20 UTC
lol, bless this post.

Maybe it's my personal damage, but I fundamentally don't understand why people... WOULDN'T want to understand why terrible people are terrible??? (Excluding personal triggers, of course). In general, fandom's moratorium on "explaining" morally reprehensible characters seems to defeat the whole point of, you know, discussing shit. BUT THAT'S JUST ME. I HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO DRINK THE BLOOD OF INNOCENTS.

And... I'm just gonna come out and say it: I find it super problematic that formative trauma is a thing that is virtually always handwaved in these discourses ("sure, X was abused as a child, BUT X IS A BAD PERSON"). Apologia may be the worse of two evils, but frankly, not by much.

re: the tragic fates of Extras 100-1148: I've been laughing for roughly nine hundred years.

I'm also just confused about HOW MUCH VILIFYING is ENOUGH? I feel like these people have not been made aware of the fact that anger in itself is not a moral act. Being angry means jackshit unless you are doing something productive about it. Raging about the tragic fates of Extras 100-1148 doesn't make you a warrior of social justice, it just makes you someone who is angry about the tragic fates of a bunch of people who don't exist. Sorry to say, bro.

Anyway: YOU, I LIKE. xoxo

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pocochina January 6 2014, 05:16:31 UTC


Maybe it's my personal damage, but I fundamentally don't understand why people... WOULDN'T want to understand why terrible people are terrible??? (Excluding personal triggers, of course).

Yeah, exactly. "I don't want to get into this asshole's/type of asshole's head" is totally fair, but trying to putting a taboo on attempts to understand assholes generally is pretty creepy.

BUT THAT'S JUST ME. I HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO DRINK THE BLOOD OF INNOCENTS.

WELL DARLING, HOW ELSE DOES ONE STAY BEAUTIFUL ENOUGH TO KEEP THE PEASANTS ENSORCELED AND THE KNIGHTS CRAVING THE DEATHS OF ONE'S ENEMIES? HONESTLY.

I find it super problematic that formative trauma is a thing that is virtually always handwaved in these discourses ("sure, X was abused as a child, BUT X IS A BAD PERSON")

Yeah, it squicks the shit out of me too.

I'm also just confused about HOW MUCH VILIFYING is ENOUGH?

lol, this would be quite the helpful guideline, though going by Standard Disapproval Protocols, at least enough that you're apologizing as much as you're opinionating, though preferably enough that you just keep your ~~problematic thoughts to yourself, apparently.

I feel like these people have not been made aware of the fact that anger in itself is not a moral act.

Nothing to add, it just bears repeating.

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lynnenne January 7 2014, 02:50:39 UTC
I HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO DRINK THE BLOOD OF INNOCENTS.

I hear there's a patch for that now. The secret ingredient is otter.

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pocochina January 7 2014, 03:39:53 UTC
ahahaha!

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ever_neutral January 8 2014, 03:54:03 UTC
You are good job.

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local_max January 8 2014, 03:13:03 UTC
Maybe it's my personal damage, but I fundamentally don't understand why people... WOULDN'T want to understand why terrible people are terrible??? (Excluding personal triggers, of course). In general, fandom's moratorium on "explaining" morally reprehensible characters seems to defeat the whole point of, you know, discussing shit.

No, you see, people do evil because they are EVIL PEOPLE and that is their motivation. Anything else and you are going into crazy territory. Ask anyone who's done anything bad, and they'll be like, "because I am evil," and then you can watch out for them in the future for that reason.

And... I'm just gonna come out and say it: I find it super problematic that formative trauma is a thing that is virtually always handwaved in these discourses ("sure, X was abused as a child, BUT X IS A BAD PERSON"). Apologia may be the worse of two evils, but frankly, not by much.

pfft, lots of people have "formative trauma," I mean, babies are always crying, mwah mwah, whatever, go get a job freeloader. fucking babies. I forget what point I was making.

re: the tragic fates of Extras 100-1148: I've been laughing for roughly nine hundred years.

almost a year per Extra, that's harsh yo.

I'm also just confused about HOW MUCH VILIFYING is ENOUGH?

almost a year per Extra, bare minimum

oh hey I was watching the final season of Breaking Bad tonight with my mom (who hasn't seen it), SPOILERS and, like, that asshole Hank was going on and on about how that bitch Skyler must have had a rough time with Walt cooking meth all the time. blah blah blah, lock her up why don't you! oh you don't have the evidence? well, you know, get on that I guess. also Walter Jr was trying to get out of doing chores, the asshole, I hope Hank can lock him up too, before he himself is locked up

I'm not drunk but I wish I were, because I feel like it'd be great to toss off a "I'm drunk xoxo." I am possibly in a mood though! so, "I'm in a mood xoxo"

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pocochina January 8 2014, 04:32:12 UTC
ahahahahahahaha

what did I do to deserve the glorious presence of this comment

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ever_neutral January 8 2014, 11:15:24 UTC
Ask anyone who's done anything bad, and they'll be like, "because I am evil," and then you can watch out for them in the future for that reason.

Fair point. That is pretty much my justification for everything so your handle on human psychology is on point.

Fucking babies indeed.

I enjoy it when you're in a mood. It suits my own.

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local_max January 8 2014, 16:43:07 UTC
Right. It's like, "Should I have a soup or salad? ARGH WHAT WOULD AN EVIL PERSON DO. I DEMAND BOTH! oh that's really not an option? uh, soup I guess," is what evil people are like at restaurants.

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