GoT S3: the cowardly lion

Aug 10, 2013 01:58

So I am fascinated and so pleased with what Martin, D&D, and Dance are doing with Tywin Lannister. Only, I don't think I've seen my take on him posted elsewhere, which is as good an excuse as any to indulge in scathing hatred, so. Consider yourselves warned/intrigued. Spoilers through aired episodes of GoT; plot twists that haven't happened yet are ( Read more... )

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pocochina August 10 2013, 15:30:54 UTC
I do think he's quite clever politically, I just don't think that translates into the full-on flawless Magnificent Bastard status fandom seems to give him.

I have SO many thoughts about Tywin and Joff! I don't actually remember which was the first time they shared a scene. I kept them out because I was really trying not to editorialize BUT I think they're actually quite a great study in nature and nurture. Like, okay. I don't know how much the "warrior gene" thing is science and how much of it is biology for social science majors. But whatever it is, I think Tywin and Joff are very similar in sharing that disposition toward violence. But Joff, who was raised as a prince and was forced into a grown-up role very young, is undisciplined about it, whereas Tywin seems to have had much more reason in his formative years and didn't have that kind of power until he was developmentally ready to wield it, and so he's developed those talents as best he can. And Joff is just the logical extension of the "family and power above all" attitude, and I really enjoy watching Tywin have to face that.

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bellonablack August 10 2013, 19:08:31 UTC
!!! I think many characters just DROP on that standard sometimes, and I'm just like. The trope name. Should be more ---exacting ahaha.

YES--I THINK THEY ARE TOO! Shared violence, and the reaction to it. Joff was just thrown in with great power and little restraint, and Tywin had to 'hide' it. YES. XD

(Joff is great in having ....a literal manifestation of this mindset and HOW. And the consequences...)

I love Joff as a character for that very reason you said, brilliant!

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