TVD 4x9

Dec 13, 2012 22:58

Here’s what I love about this show: is that it can have a character kill a character I really like in order to terrorize a character that I love, and leave me more attached and sympathetic to the killer more than I was before. Klaus flat-out knows what Stefan figures out about him in front of the fire: that he is not intrinsically worse than they ( Read more... )

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nrgburst December 14 2012, 04:57:59 UTC
OMG YES. I have so many conflicting feelings about this episode.

I dislike Klaus- he is an awful person who does awful things and he is messing with my OTP. But no character is ever 100% PURE EVIL INCARNATE. So even juxtaposed against all the murder, I found Stefan and Caroline's unknowing sympathy for a mass murderer believable. THEY would be less sympathetic to the audience if they couldn't see that side to him that feels utterly alone. So despite all the horribleness, I too saw the sad, human side of Klaus tonight. I just wish Tyler could put him out of his misery already. Gah. Why didn't he question where this witch was coming from; want to see her with his own eyes before committing to the plan?

I love the way you put the Lockwood family dynamic. And I am so sad that it was Carol who was killed to send another message to Tyler. But after the "walking dead" promises made to Hayley last episode, I think Hayley will probably use reviving Carol as a way to earn back Tyler's trust/help.

The subconscious is what it is- you are right; we have higher reasoning that allows us to make decisions that will often rule against it. But I think what Jeremy stated was one of those uncomfortable truths that somehow doesn't even faze Elena anymore. She's just like, "I'm the doppelganger, everybody has to help me." Not, "I'm the doppelganger- I need to get away from here to keep everyone I love safe." (Which is exactly what Tyler did, not once, but twice.)

Man, hiatus sucks. I will need to get hooked on some other shows. LOL

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pocochina December 14 2012, 05:20:12 UTC
ahaha. Hating Klaus is totally fair. I just really love the deconstruction of woobification that's happening with him? Because IMO Klaus is THE most sinned-against character in the TVD 'verse, and that changes exactly NOTHING about the horribleness of what he's done and continues to do.

Why didn't he question where this witch was coming from; want to see her with his own eyes before committing to the plan?

I kinda can't blame him for believing her. Hayley's been with him for months and months, and is the only person in his life besides his mom who hasn't sold him out in the last couple of weeks.

She's just like, "I'm the doppelganger, everybody has to help me." Not, "I'm the doppelganger- I need to get away from here to keep everyone I love safe."

In fairness, though, it's not like that ever works. And she found out about the doppelganger thing from Katherine, who tried to run and everyone got killed for her trouble. Elena's got plenty of character flaws, but there really isn't anything she could do about that part of it. (I actually think Jeremy's subconscious thing here is Elena's favorite cop-out. And it's really, really interesting that he's buying it.)

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nrgburst December 15 2012, 02:19:49 UTC
I actually think Jeremy's subconscious thing here is Elena's favorite cop-out. Ooooh, interesting. Can I just say I love all the thinky thoughts in this corner of fandom? LOL It really makes the show so much more enjoyable. :D

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