i lay traps for troubadors

Nov 23, 2012 16:17

I'm feeling kind of stuck, you guys. I mean, I'm enjoying posting what I'm posting and reading what I've been reading. I just feel like I have a lot more thoughts than usual getting whipped up in the brain-fog and I can't catch any of them enough to think something through the way I like to do.

Part of the problem, I think, is that I feel like I ( Read more... )

spn: sammay!, supernatural, to/tvd: of gods and mikaelsons, spn: i love luci, meta-fantastica, dollhouse, tvd

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pocochina November 24 2012, 03:34:15 UTC
you possibly were not drawing an explicit connection (you may have been! I'm slightly unclear) between "I feel like I have to say EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD about topic X before posting and that stresses me the fuck out" and "man I love characters who can just say truths without having any agenda or being held accountable to an exaggerated degree for whatever they happen to point out,"

I really wasn't, but that...is uncomfortably astute, lol. I am eternally in love with the massive temper tantrums I can't bring myself to throw.

Yes and YES to all of your thoughts about Alpha, Echo, and the Dollhouse as Eden. It's as close as I've seen to a modern feminist re-interpretation of the mythology, and it has a special place in my heart for that.

"The apples were monitored!" still cracks me up, because: TRUTH. It doesn't mince around pretending that an arguably benevolent jailer is anything other than your average megalomaniac, and it comes from a character who's got too clear of an agenda to be particularly admirable for it. And that's how this kind of character works so well for me.

since it's a comparison of why Dollhouse is better than a show I haven't watched I have nothing to add but implicit assumed agreement.

haha, this is extremely correct. What SPN does, it does really goddamn well, but that's a fairly narrow range which emphatically does *not* include the critical thinking about social power dynamics that Dollhouse does better than pretty much anything. I SHALL SAY NO MORE THOUGH because I think you'd enjoy it and ~spoilers.

anyway, YOU SHOULD TOTALLY BE A TRICKSTER AND ASTOUND US ALL WITH YOUR WIT AND WHIMSY. ♥

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local_max November 24 2012, 04:05:12 UTC
I really wasn't, but that...is uncomfortably astute, lol. I am eternally in love with the massive temper tantrums I can't bring myself to throw.

There is a reason for my Dark Willow obsession, and it's not the hotness, though it's not _not_ the hotness.

Yes and YES to all of your thoughts about Alpha, Echo, and the Dollhouse as Eden. It's as close as I've seen to a modern feminist re-interpretation of the mythology, and it has a special place in my heart for that.

Yessss. There is some of that in BtVS actually -- the demons came first and the world did not start with a paradise, and I've read season four as being an interpretation of the Garden of Eden story with Adam "naming" the world (lots of filing, giving things names) and ComboBuffy removing the separation implicit in The Word, which is thrilling and I also don't entirely understand it.

Oh, right, so I think this is said essay: http://etrangere.livejournal.com/321338.html. I haven't reread it lately but I remember it being amazing.

"The apples were monitored!" still cracks me up, because: TRUTH. It doesn't mince around pretending that an arguably benevolent jailer is anything other than your average megalomaniac, and it comes from a character who's got too clear of an agenda to be particularly admirable for it. And that's how this kind of character works so well for me.

Yes, right! Because the character isn't to be admired for themselves, it actually opens up the door to being able to think about what they say as potentially true without it being too didactic.

I am sooo unsure if I'll get to SPN, because I am so behind on shows entirely, and for some reason am spending my TV time watching Seinfeld reruns, but HERE'S HOPING SOMEDAYYYYY

<3 annywayyyyssssss.

I also totally did not catch "the apples were monitored," which is, yes, fantastic.

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pocochina November 24 2012, 04:17:54 UTC
There is a reason for my Dark Willow obsession, and it's not the hotness, though it's not _not_ the hotness.

Also she's fabulous.

oooh, thanks for the rec! and hahaha, it would drive Adam crazy that he was basically the beta-test for another character. But Alpha, I think, was the far more mature take on the themes brought forth by the Initiative and Adam.

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