it's all very west side story.

Nov 17, 2012 11:02

I’m glad Cas is back because I love him, but I also think his importance to the Winchester saga is underrated. It’s a little bit strange to think of an angel as a reality check, but that does seem to be Castiel’s function in the narrative. I’m reminded a lot of Anya from BtVS. Castiel’s literalness is funny, sure. But he’s also an oddly innocent ( Read more... )

spn: cas you so fly, supernatural, the dollhouse is real, spn: corpus angelorum, spn: dean what even, episode review

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obsessive_a101 November 17 2012, 17:02:05 UTC
My sister finally has caught up I think with the season (I do not doubt that it is because Cas is finally back and she was sick of getting spoiled on Tumblr XD), but hmm... This will be interesting... :3 Because I STILL have no context from which to understand anything. (I continue to take a step further than episode 6x03 at the moment.)

All I DO know was that the BIG RUNNING DEBATE in my sister's part of the Cas fandom was if the promo shots showed Cas letting go of Dean's hand or if it slipped from Dean's grip or if Dean let go (at which point the Destiel fandom is literally crying all the tears out). I am guessing that is resolved now? :D *am still refusing to watch until some time "later"*

All that said, YAY CAS! I MISSED YOU SO!!!

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pocochina November 17 2012, 18:33:34 UTC
lol! I knew it was coming because I saw the trailer last week, and I'm still all CAS IS BACK! <3

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pocochina November 17 2012, 18:40:43 UTC
It's really awful. I mean, I know the bar is seriously low here, but the show has grown up in a lot of other ways, and it's frustrating that we're not bothering on this issue.

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percysowner November 17 2012, 18:41:55 UTC
As someone who is more fond of Sam than of Cas, I have come to realize that I would like Cas much better if the writers allow Cas to interact with Sam. It seems to me that when Cas in an episode and especially when he is on screen, Sam becomes virtually mute and fades into the wallpaper. The biggest example of this was when Dean decides to confront Castiel about his escape from Purgatory and insists they both leave the car so they can discuss it without Sam. Cas's original purpose was to convince Dean that Sam was an abomination and that Dean was the special snowflake that could save the world. Cas is still tied tightly to Dean and is still fairly removed from Sam IMHO. Sam may forgive and understand Cas, but when Cas apologized for becoming "god" and breaking Sam in 7.01-02 it was to Dean. When he apologized to Sam for breaking him, Sam was in a coma and unable to hear or know ( ... )

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pocochina November 17 2012, 19:17:24 UTC
I will have a much easier time with Cas if he actually establishes a relationship with Sam that is more than being Dean's friend and realizing that he has to interact with Dean's little brother. I think a Sam Cas friendship could be very interesting and bring more to the story than the Dean focused relationship that has been established. I agree that some more substantive interaction between Sam and Cas would be helpful to balance out a lot of the dynamics there. I just think that's a general issue with how Dean tends to be the POV character. Throughout S5 especially, I got the sense that Sam was as important to Cas as Dean was. Dean is better at the more surface-level aspects of their friendship, but Cas took on Anna and stood up to Lucifer for Sam's sake. He's the first one who believed in Sam's ability to fight off Lucifer, when Bobby and Dean were openly mocking Sam for it. And for all it went so wrong, nobody made him break Sam out of the Cage - he took that huge risk out of loyalty and compassion. The line about his "more ( ... )

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vanaynay67 November 17 2012, 23:16:15 UTC
Agreeeeee!

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anonymous November 17 2012, 18:46:58 UTC
I guess I don't understand all the fans that hate on Sam so much and blame him for all of Dean's emotional issues. John is the one who screwed Dean up, not Sam, and Sam cannot magically fix his older-by-4 1/2 years messed up brother who spiral downward into downplaying his self-worth started when Sam was only 6 months old. That is just twisted and ignorant. So is it my fault my oldest brother drinks too much? Is it my husband's fault his older sister allows her children to take advantage of her financially? When children have difficulty in school, do the teachers say, "Oh, it is the fault of his younger brother, he should be less demanding and selfish so little Timmy can learn his multiplication tables." Does this make any sense? The teachers always look to the parents, as they should. Yet Sam gets all the heat and blame because he is a bad brother and Dean feels so guilty about everything and Sam better be nice to Dean so he can lose those negative feelings and stop drinking so much. Yes, Sam can be supportive, but he can't ( ... )

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pocochina November 17 2012, 19:25:08 UTC
Hi there! Thanks for commenting.

John is the one who screwed Dean up, not Sam, and Sam cannot magically fix his older-by-4 1/2 years messed up brother who spiral downward into downplaying his self-worth started when Sam was only 6 months old.

Naturally, I agree completely. Dean seems to be almost too comfortable a POV character, if that make sense? I get why he resents Sam for what his life has become. It's not rational, and it's not fair, but the "this is FOR SAM" excuse John gave for his bad parenting would have sunk in to the core. It's just hard for me to get why people uncritically take on Dean's obviously-skewed perspective, though obviously many do.

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jacyevans November 17 2012, 19:36:08 UTC
I've caught up with all of the episodes prior to this one and - ARGH. I WANT to like this season, but I have so many RAGE feels, especially with Dean and the total genderfail, that it's really, really hard.

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pocochina November 17 2012, 19:48:55 UTC
Understood completely, even if I'm enjoying it a lot overall. I won't pretend there's any excuse for the gender issues. I do think that with the Dean stuff they're going further than I expected in drawing out the ugliness of his behavior, even if we haven't gotten to the point of actual accountability.

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