the "honorable" means, of course, being a great show of brute strength and raw aggression--i.e. the "more masculine", and therefore "more appropriate for a man", tactics
THIS. THANK YOU. It's moralization of physical violence - and the corresponding dismissal of any hurt caused by something that's not direct physical aggression. Kudos on articulating MY PROBLEM WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING EVER. #exaggerations that aren't. I think that's something that comes into play around any depiction of a conflict that's not entirely between alpha male pricks, but it seems particularly stark with DA, for some reason.
I wonder if people dislike him so much because they read him as being selfish (or overreaching his "station")Cora and Isabelle are never attacked for fighting over the Abbey, but of course, they already have some right to fight over it because, whereas Thomas doesn't.
Completely. At least, I think that's certainly why the narrative seems to think we will dislike him. And yeah, I really do love that Cora's and Isabelle's conflict isn't being diminished or played for laughs as some CATFIGHT! but yeah, the respect their power struggle gets is very much dependent on their class status.
WOW I'M GLAD YOU COULD MAKE SENSE OF WHAT I WAS SAYING THROUGH ALL THE TYPOS & GRAMMATICAL INCOHERENCIES. jesus. I don't know what happened while I was typing those thoughts--apparently I got all sidetracked by my own theorizing.
It's moralization of physical violence - and the corresponding dismissal of any hurt caused by something that's not direct physical aggression.
BUT YEAH THAT. I just wonder if people would like Thomas more if he:
1. got into fistfights all the time (or...I dunno. something like that).
or
2. sat around hating himself for being gay/queer/whatever you want to call it.
I'm actually certain people would like him more if he were the latter. then it would be the case of POOR OPPRESSED GAY GUY. LET ME WOOBIFY YOU.
...not like I have opinions about that or anything.
I really do love that Cora's and Isabelle's conflict isn't being diminished or played for laughs as some CATFIGHT!
huh, this never occurred to me. but now that you point it out, I'm also glad they aren't being portrayed that way.
THIS. THANK YOU. It's moralization of physical violence - and the corresponding dismissal of any hurt caused by something that's not direct physical aggression. Kudos on articulating MY PROBLEM WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING EVER. #exaggerations that aren't. I think that's something that comes into play around any depiction of a conflict that's not entirely between alpha male pricks, but it seems particularly stark with DA, for some reason.
I wonder if people dislike him so much because they read him as being selfish (or overreaching his "station")Cora and Isabelle are never attacked for fighting over the Abbey, but of course, they already have some right to fight over it because, whereas Thomas doesn't.
Completely. At least, I think that's certainly why the narrative seems to think we will dislike him. And yeah, I really do love that Cora's and Isabelle's conflict isn't being diminished or played for laughs as some CATFIGHT! but yeah, the respect their power struggle gets is very much dependent on their class status.
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It's moralization of physical violence - and the corresponding dismissal of any hurt caused by something that's not direct physical aggression.
BUT YEAH THAT. I just wonder if people would like Thomas more if he:
1. got into fistfights all the time (or...I dunno. something like that).
or
2. sat around hating himself for being gay/queer/whatever you want to call it.
I'm actually certain people would like him more if he were the latter. then it would be the case of POOR OPPRESSED GAY GUY. LET ME WOOBIFY YOU.
...not like I have opinions about that or anything.
I really do love that Cora's and Isabelle's conflict isn't being diminished or played for laughs as some CATFIGHT!
huh, this never occurred to me. but now that you point it out, I'm also glad they aren't being portrayed that way.
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