girls love bad boys! but not for the reasons you think.

Dec 30, 2011 22:51

I was going to deny my rationalization-filled, navel-gazey, nosebleed-level theorizing on this? But then ever_neutral wrote this and kelpyfinners wrote this and I AM NOT MADE OF STONE, PEOPLE. Right now this is no longer locked because...I felt like it? Passing familiarity with TVD and Buffy will probably help, but I don't think there are a whole lot of specific spoilers ( Read more... )

tvd: damon salvatore is existentially lo, masculinity, obligatory love of psychotic jackasses, feminism, btvs/ats, btvs/ats: spike is love's bitch, tvd, my f-list is the best list, femininity, tvd: my vampire boyfriend

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pocochina December 31 2011, 04:18:55 UTC
It's fascinating, why we see ourselves in characters! I think this is meta-meta-navel-gazing, I should get a sticker or something.

I find myself identifying more with female characters overall, but there are some traits that just plain don't appear in female characters, where I am like, oh no, I'm Angel.

I do feel mixed about my identification with male characters. It's easier for me to like and get excited about female characters overall, but when I click with a male character, it's this laser-focused YOU ARE ME experience. Damon and Spike, almost as much as Wesley and Lee. I don't tend to have that exact reaction to female characters, though I slightly suspect I'll get there with Lady Mary Crowley when I get around to S2.

And I think that's in large part just because there's a wider range of male characters generally (ladies do not get Angel's or Wesley's messed-up post-Catholic conflict!), and performativity and insecurity in women tends so much to be tied to that super-specific hetero-romantic validation which leaves me irritated at best. But it's also that there's this qualified masculinity that I enjoy so, so much.

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penny_lane_42 January 3 2012, 14:45:33 UTC
do feel mixed about my identification with male characters. It's easier for me to like and get excited about female characters overall, but when I click with a male character, it's this laser-focused YOU ARE ME experience.

This is me. If you ask me which character is my favorite from a given fandom, nine times out of ten it's going to be a lady. But, y'all, as much as I love Buffy or Scully or Martha Jones (and my love is INTENSE), I relate so, so much more to Spike or Mulder or Rory. I'm always surprised when I find a female character I actually relate to. I am still surprised by Annie Sawyer every time I see her on my screen.

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pocochina January 3 2012, 17:25:44 UTC
YES. The character I identify with is only rarely my favorite.

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