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AFI is on the MTV Movie Awards tonight :3 I'm totally watching and recording it on my tape de AFI.
And here's the "Decemberunderground" theory... for all of you so damn curious. Laugh, cry, whatever XD;
When this whole "337" theory started, AFI released an EP. On the EP were three songs. "337", "Now the World", and "Reiver's Song." Everyone, as far as I can tell, is unknowing of the identity of Reiver. As far as I know, Reiver is a ficticious character fabricated by AFI.
AFI doesn't use names aside from songs like "Dave No Party" (Very Proud of Ya), "Miss Murder" (decemberunderground), and "David" in "The Interview" (decemberunderground). While "Dave no Party" is not at all affiliated with the whole DU theory, it does show that AFI is not very big on naming characters in their songs. Davey sings prodomidently in first person. It's one of his strong points. But there is shades of people entering and leaving in the song. Relationships are implied. During "Girl's Not Grey", a person (assumed as a woman), follows "Davey." During songs like "Leaving Song Pt Two" and "This Time Imperfect", abuse, hopelessness, and connections with people (usually severed) are key themes.
But one of the most alarming uses of these themes is DU's "Love Like Winter." The chorus changes from "He wanted love" to "She wanted love."
This is shockingly different for AFI. Not only is it a relationship (albeit, abusive), but we have the gender(s) of the people.
This can be taken three ways. One is that the point of view switches. But in the world of submissives and dominants, it seems highly unkiely that this relationship, with seems almost vampirac, would have roles switched. Two is that the character (Davey? A ficticious character?) is a submissive bisexual. The feeling of vernulablility is constant in Sing the Sorrow and DU. Factoring in the fact that the band strives for that feeling of androgeny, open-mindedness and anynonmy, it is highly likely. The last hteory is that "he" and "she" are one in the same.
LLW's "dominant role" is a very agressive one. The feeling of a person (most likely a woman) is clearly in charge throughout the album, with songs like "Miss Murder" and "Killing Lights." With lyrics that always reverberate a woman that seems almost demanding and domineering ("'I will wait for you,'/She said,/'Endlessly'", "Hey Miss Murder, can I/Make beauty stay if I/Take my life?", "She's not regretful"). Any theory that this woman, most likely "Miss Murder" is a domanatrix-type character is highly likely.
Another theme that is played with, especially in STS, is the sense of an actor putting on a show. Pretending. Losing identity.
So there is a posibility that Miss Murder is actually a cross dresser (most likely, transsexual). His/Her transsition, starting with the EP, and struggling throughout STS, developed to "Miss Murder" and tried to seek control over a past lover.
Who is Miss Murder? Perhaps she is Reiver from ages back. And the woeful storyteller? David. I am not implying that David is actually Davey, but David and Reiver's relationship could be the whole center of this story.
And here's a though. During "Girl's Not Grey", Reiver could be the one following David. Reiver, half-way through his transsition, may have met David. David could have rejected him and in an act of vengence Reiver became Miss Murder and made David succumb to her.
There are so many theories. It's hard to keep track. And we may never know. But then again, who does in a world of vengence and utter havoc?
And here's the "Decemberunderground" theory... for all of you so damn curious. Laugh, cry, whatever XD;
When this whole "337" theory started, AFI released an EP. On the EP were three songs. "337", "Now the World", and "Reiver's Song." Everyone, as far as I can tell, is unknowing of the identity of Reiver. As far as I know, Reiver is a ficticious character fabricated by AFI.
AFI doesn't use names aside from songs like "Dave No Party" (Very Proud of Ya), "Miss Murder" (decemberunderground), and "David" in "The Interview" (decemberunderground). While "Dave no Party" is not at all affiliated with the whole DU theory, it does show that AFI is not very big on naming characters in their songs. Davey sings prodomidently in first person. It's one of his strong points. But there is shades of people entering and leaving in the song. Relationships are implied. During "Girl's Not Grey", a person (assumed as a woman), follows "Davey." During songs like "Leaving Song Pt Two" and "This Time Imperfect", abuse, hopelessness, and connections with people (usually severed) are key themes.
But one of the most alarming uses of these themes is DU's "Love Like Winter." The chorus changes from "He wanted love" to "She wanted love."
This is shockingly different for AFI. Not only is it a relationship (albeit, abusive), but we have the gender(s) of the people.
This can be taken three ways. One is that the point of view switches. But in the world of submissives and dominants, it seems highly unkiely that this relationship, with seems almost vampirac, would have roles switched. Two is that the character (Davey? A ficticious character?) is a submissive bisexual. The feeling of vernulablility is constant in Sing the Sorrow and DU. Factoring in the fact that the band strives for that feeling of androgeny, open-mindedness and anynonmy, it is highly likely. The last hteory is that "he" and "she" are one in the same.
LLW's "dominant role" is a very agressive one. The feeling of a person (most likely a woman) is clearly in charge throughout the album, with songs like "Miss Murder" and "Killing Lights." With lyrics that always reverberate a woman that seems almost demanding and domineering ("'I will wait for you,'/She said,/'Endlessly'", "Hey Miss Murder, can I/Make beauty stay if I/Take my life?", "She's not regretful"). Any theory that this woman, most likely "Miss Murder" is a domanatrix-type character is highly likely.
Another theme that is played with, especially in STS, is the sense of an actor putting on a show. Pretending. Losing identity.
So there is a posibility that Miss Murder is actually a cross dresser (most likely, transsexual). His/Her transsition, starting with the EP, and struggling throughout STS, developed to "Miss Murder" and tried to seek control over a past lover.
Who is Miss Murder? Perhaps she is Reiver from ages back. And the woeful storyteller? David. I am not implying that David is actually Davey, but David and Reiver's relationship could be the whole center of this story.
And here's a though. During "Girl's Not Grey", Reiver could be the one following David. Reiver, half-way through his transsition, may have met David. David could have rejected him and in an act of vengence Reiver became Miss Murder and made David succumb to her.
There are so many theories. It's hard to keep track. And we may never know. But then again, who does in a world of vengence and utter havoc?