AU World Building Groups: The 12 Noble Houses of the Fire Nation

Jul 23, 2013 08:59

BACKGROUNDThe book, "The Lost Scrolls: Fire", tells the story of the Fire Sages, how they were the Fire Nation's governing council until the Fire Lord (or head sage), so called that because he was the most powerful firebender and the most spiritually connected to fire, broke from them and took the rulership with him. The sages we see in Winter ( Read more... )

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loopy777 July 23 2013, 23:23:07 UTC
Interesting backstory. The things that most surprised me were:
  • The Fire Lord didn't use an Agni Kai to solidify his coup against the other sages.

  • The sages started off married. (Granted, there's no reason they couldn't be according to the cartoon, but the temple on Roku's island looks like a temple inhabited by just a handful of old men.)

  • Piandao being a mainstream figure for a time. (If I ever actually publish 100 Men, I can get my own take out there, but my beta said what I have is kind of junky and I'm not sure I want to rewrite so much.)
I was also surprised that the existing noble class allowed a new one to be put in place over them, but I'm thinking that's more of an opportunity. Either you can use the 2nd House (but they seem kind of urban in nature) or give the specialty to one of the unspecified houses, but either way one of the houses could be responsible for managing the landowner class. The only real issue is how to implement it without giving too much power to that House, that they could consolidate the landowners ( ... )

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plushulala July 24 2013, 00:42:37 UTC
The Fire Lord didn't use an Agni Kai to solidify his coup against the other sages.

That's how #13 got killed. :b It was kind of a sad fight since the Fire Lord was so much more powerful. The other sages were like, "Oh snap, Son!" -_-; (Maybe it was the first such Agni Kai?) And the kids killed the family and made sure everyone knew about it.

I was actually toying around with the idea that the whole Agni Kai thing was something that didn't catch on until later.

The sages started off married. (Granted, there's no reason they couldn't be according to the cartoon, but the temple on Roku's island looks like a temple inhabited by just a handful of old men.)Escape From the Spirit World says that Shyu was Fire Sage Kaja's grandson. Kaja was the Sage who trained Roku at the temple ( ... )

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loopy777 July 24 2013, 01:57:48 UTC
Ah, I forgot the Shyu was a professional descendant. Good catch.

Fair point about the landowners already being 'second class' nobles, but if you wanted, you could probably play on their pride at being left out of the reorganization. It still strikes me that the Houses might have taken some power from the landowners (like there used to be individually administrated militias, and then a unified military is created that is under the strong influence of a House) but it ultimately comes down to whether you want to play it that way. I'm a fan of political thrillers, myself, but I admit they're not for everyone.

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plushulala July 24 2013, 11:14:55 UTC
Fair point about the landowners already being 'second class' nobles, but if you wanted, you could probably play on their pride at being left out of the reorganizationSo..the land owners can be put into three main groups ( ... )

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loopy777 July 24 2013, 23:05:00 UTC
Ah, that paints a much clearer view of the landowners. Thanks. Yeah, I can see why they wouldn't be a big factor, then.

And it is indeed fun to do this kind of worldbuilding. I used to just create fantasy and sci-fi worlds, with economies as functional as I could make them, with the vague idea of either writing stories based on the stuff or setting an RPG campaign in them. Never did either with any of them, but it's still something I like to dabble with when I have the time.

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plushulala July 25 2013, 01:57:58 UTC
Ah, that paints a much clearer view of the landowners. Thanks. Yeah, I can see why they wouldn't be a big factor, then.

You're welcome.

And it is indeed fun to do this kind of worldbuilding. I used to just create fantasy and sci-fi worlds, with economies as functional as I could make them, with the vague idea of either writing stories based on the stuff or setting an RPG campaign in them. Never did either with any of them, but it's still something I like to dabble with when I have the time.

I think I like world-building more than I like writing the stories.

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