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Jan 20, 2014 12:23

Does anyone know of any feminist utopias that don't rely on eugenics? I just realized even Whileaway has eugenics in the form of "genetic surgeons" who correct physical "errors" and ensure that everyone has what would now be considered a genius IQ ( Read more... )

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jsl32 January 20 2014, 22:52:59 UTC
there's Catholic science fiction?

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plasticsturgeon January 21 2014, 06:18:26 UTC
I'm way out of touch with modern stuff since Borders closed, but these spring to mind:

--Always Coming Home YES I KNOW YOU HATE IT
--all of the Melissa Scott universes I can remember
--any James Morrow thing
--the Grass/Raising the Stones/Sideshow universe (there was genetic engineering but it wasn't the humans)
--The Two of Them
--that one where the company sells the planet and everyone has to leave but that one old woman hides there
--The Hunger Games (the closest it gets is when Beetee says they shouldn't kill everyone in the mountain because they might not have enough people left in the gene pool)

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plasticsturgeon January 22 2014, 04:08:21 UTC
I can never remember when anything happened. I'm about 99.9% sure you did say that, though, because I was deeply shocked at the time (why exactly, I don't know).

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plasticsturgeon January 23 2014, 02:05:51 UTC
What do you mean by her attitude to fecundity? And how does moving there make you more frustrated by her--is it seeing the annoying people she's been influenced by? I remember I got annoyed when I read that one where coffee is the official drink of eeeeeevil and all the good people drink fancy tea.

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wotyfree July 16 2015, 02:07:27 UTC
Yeah, SF is often horrifyingly eugenicist and also often behaviorist or otherwise extremely authoritarian too.

Eg: Ender's Game; Foundation...

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