Shock and Outrage
So, I'm getting pretty good at shocking tow-truck drivers. Tonight, I walked out of work to see I had a flat. The driver was pretty adamant about just putting air into the tire, stating that spares are only 'if you break down on the highway, because they're not very good.' That's when I told him my spare was a full size, that the first thing I
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One of things that annoys me is that these are often the same people that don't think (other) families spend enough time together or with their kids. Where's all that family involvement when it comes to policing their own kids?
After all, Pullman doesn't believe there is any kind of God, so how could he write about a war with 'God' if he doesn't believe the entity exists, unless he made it up?
I always wonder how they reconcile such contradictions, but I suspect that they don't believe that atheists really don't believe in God but that atheism is a kind of war on God.
the thought of killing God is ludicrous, for He is all powerful and thus cannot be destroyed.
Exactly. Surely their god and their faith can stand up to a little story.
The problem is that they want a perfect little world without contradiction for their children to grow up in. They don't want to have these dialogs because they can't discuss it without doubts, which scares them, or they have no faith in their children to have doubts and reconcile them. They often don't have the words to explain, defend, etc their beliefs. (Which is really weird because I'm not Christian and I can come up with arguments for their side that hold water.)
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To be fair, for some atheists, that is the case. Or a war on Christians anyway. It'd not true of all athiests, certainly, but it is of some.
Banning Pullman is batshit insane though. Pix, your arguments are beautifully stated, thank you.
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I don't know about you, but I'd rather have a better idea of how they think, then. Like I said, those questions are going to come up, and it might be better to teach kids ahead of time how to deal with them.
But yeah, some atheists are just as whacked as their counterparts from other religions.
I just really hate the banning of ideas. Better to prove the ideas stupid, than limit peoples' ability to think.
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It seems it's more important to police everyone else's.
What's really annoying about this whole thing is how much the Catholic schools in Ontario are funded with public money. They say that as private schools they should have the right to determine their own curricula, but they're quite willing to accept the cash from everybody else. People argue that church schools shouldn't have to support ideals that aren't their own, but why should taxpayers be forced to do the same?
Maybe I'm weird though. I think a crisis of faith is a good thing, because it makes you truly examine what you believe, and if it holds up to examination, you can believe even more strongly. One of the things that drove me away from organised religion was the fact that nobody seemed to really know what they were talking about. There was a lot of rote learning, but no synthesis or individual research.
Which is really weird because I'm not Christian and I can come up with arguments for their side that hold water.
Which is more than most people on one side of an argument or another can do. But that's my point, because I'm guessing you have arguments that can counter those ones... which you wouldn't have if you'd never thought of them in the first place.
Exactly. Surely their god and their faith can stand up to a little story.
God's probably sitting there, shaking his head and saying 'Morons. Get over yourselves." And if their faith can't handle it... that says it all right there.
The irony is that ever since the Church said HP was OK, people seem to see all these wonderful 'Christian' stories within it.
*shakes head* sometimes people really scare me.
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