I did like the truth business. While I found it slightly odd that Hermione of all people was like 'oh, don't worry about the truth', the quest for it was lovely.
No Occlumency. :( It fills me with sadness. Although I got the impression that from Malfoy Manor onwards, Harry sort of could cut Voldemort out when he needed to? It wasn't made a big deal of, but he's Voldie-hallucinating, and then all this crap starts happening, and he realises he needs to focus - and Voldemort visions poof away. I don't think there are any unwanted visions subsequently, iirc, and towards the end he *chooses* to see if he can dip into it deliberately. So I guess, in a way he did learn Occlumency after all?
He didn't learn it - he leeched it off Draco. Just like the Unforgivables, with Draco's wand in hand they suddenly spill out of Harry's mouth at the slightest provocation...
Alas, I cannot agree with your lovely theory, since Harry starts to occlude Voldemort during the Malfoy Manor scene, before he ever gets hold of Draco's wand. Also, since Occlumency seems to be a rather wandless skill, it wouldn't make much sense anyway. (Would explain the Unforgivables nicely though, so thanks for giving me a good excuse to fix that bit of canon-unpleasantness!)
Alas, I cannot agree with your lovely theory, since Harry starts to occlude Voldemort during the Malfoy Manor scene, before he ever gets hold of Draco's wand.
Harry finds it very difficult, though, and keeps lapsing into Voldie vision for a few seconds at a time. Once he has Draco's wand, though, he can switch Voldie off without any problem.
Also, since Occlumency seems to be a rather wandless skill, it wouldn't make much sense anyway
I'm thinking Occlumency, like Apparating, is something for which you still need a wand even if you don't actually use it.
(Mind you, it's not like I still care enough about HP to argue my points with any kind of passion :sigh:)
Occlumency did matter!djin7July 29 2007, 22:04:32 UTC
Re: Occlumency.
In chapter 24, The Wandmaker, there is this:
His scar burned, but he was master of the pain, he felt it, yet was apart from it. He had learned control at last, learned to shut his mind to Voldemort, the very thing Dumbledore had wanted him to learn from Snape. Just as Voldemort had not been able to possess Harry while Harry was consumed with grief for Sirius, so his thoughts could not penetrate Harry now while he mourned Dobby. Grief, it seemed, drove Voldemort out…though Dumbledore, of course, would have said that it was love.
So that is what enables him to see into V's mind, and keep V out of his, and it does factor in a great deal to the endgame, the visions that give Harry the means to find all the information that he requires to complete his quest, as well as hiding his plans from V at the very end.
I also appreciated how she wound the 'truth' with the 'facts'. *g*
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Harry finds it very difficult, though, and keeps lapsing into Voldie vision for a few seconds at a time. Once he has Draco's wand, though, he can switch Voldie off without any problem.
Also, since Occlumency seems to be a rather wandless skill, it wouldn't make much sense anyway
I'm thinking Occlumency, like Apparating, is something for which you still need a wand even if you don't actually use it.
(Mind you, it's not like I still care enough about HP to argue my points with any kind of passion :sigh:)
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In chapter 24, The Wandmaker, there is this:
His scar burned, but he was master of the pain, he felt it, yet was apart from it. He had learned control at last, learned to shut his mind to Voldemort, the very thing Dumbledore had wanted him to learn from Snape. Just as Voldemort had not been able to possess Harry while Harry was consumed with grief for Sirius, so his thoughts could not penetrate Harry now while he mourned Dobby. Grief, it seemed, drove Voldemort out…though Dumbledore, of course, would have said that it was love.
So that is what enables him to see into V's mind, and keep V out of his, and it does factor in a great deal to the endgame, the visions that give Harry the means to find all the information that he requires to complete his quest, as well as hiding his plans from V at the very end.
I also appreciated how she wound the 'truth' with the 'facts'. *g*
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Hmm, I'm not so sure about that one. Isn't his past a part of him? It certainly changed the way I thought of him, even if it didn't for Harry.
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